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    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's weird to see so many people in the comments talking about how they switch to Linux and supposedly have so many issues.

    Did they do it 10 years ago or something? Just install something like Debian 12 (ideally with KDE if you're primarily a Windows user), and everything works. Recommended to install Flatpak as well, which can be done super easily depending on your distro, but in KDE it's just inside the "app store" (Discover).

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Is Debian so much better than Ubuntu or Mint? I tried both of those recently and had no end of troubles. Bluetooth was terrible, the Network Manager didn't appear to support MFA or split tunnelling, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Couldn't really tell you as I haven't used either, I just use Debian on my home PC with a simple set up and it all just works. I don't use things like split tunnelling or anything though.

    The simplicity and stability of Debian is great, while it has "old software", you can get the latest through Flatpak.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, if your needs are very simple then I can certainly understand why you'd be happy with Linux. But regular users need for things like Bluetooth, touchscreens and VPNs to "just work". I could spend three hours getting my bluetooth microphone to work on Linux or I can just use Windows. The decision is simple.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's not quite that simple, as common pain points such as Bluetooth and WiFi also work out of the box. For the vast majority of users, they don't really go beyond things like bluetooth, wifi, and dual monitor, all which work fine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You may be right that bluetooth now works out of the box on Linux, but that certainly wasn't the case a year or two ago. And I know for a fact that touchscreens are still hit and miss. I don't know what improvements have been made to the Network Manager, but I suspect it's still pretty bare-bones.

    It's possible that things have changed drastically very recently, but I suspect the Linux situation is still mostly the same as before: it's great for web servers, but frustrating - bordering on unusable - for regular users.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    Flatpak looks easy alright, is it still around?

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

    It's weird to see so many people in the comments talking about how they switch to Linux and supposedly have so many issues.

    Probably the type of people that have difficulty reading and following directions, or never learned how to work through problems.