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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sacha Baron-Cohen of all people did this?

You mean the celebrated comedian whose most famous schticks are the generic Muslim Middle Eastern dictator who is terrible in every way and the Central Asian anti-Semite who is sexually deranged and borderline uncivilized?

Why, it's almost as if this was inverted and a Muslim man from the Middle East played a grossly stereotyped depiction of an Israeli Jew for cheap laughs that there would be an immense outcry against what clearly amounts to open bigotry and racist caricature...

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To his Credit, SBC also played a grossly stereotyped Israeli for laughs as Elan Morad

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's a discussion to be had about satirising the in-group vs satirising the out-group, especially when it comes to how privilege intersects with this stuff.

Obviously there's the whole both-sidesism thing and also how equal opportunity bigotry primarily serves the interests of the dominant groups.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the main joke about Elan morrad isn’t how racist Israelis are though- but it’s certainly a part of the setup.

the joke is that Americans can be conned into insane Islamophobia because they worship the Israeli “security” apparatus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think he was playing some 3D chess by “criticizing both sides,” the left for correctly believing that the IDF is a genocidal force, and the right for believing the same and praising it

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah but only because it made the Republicans buy into his schtick.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He also played a very funny gay Austrian in Bruno but everyone forgets that.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine if SBC had better politics and he used that character and his brand of irreverence to get some real mask off reactions about the current situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean wasn't that the premise of "what is America?"

Never watched it though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Borat and What Is America had many scenes that explored the American zeitgeist in their respective eras. WIA had some funny moments like when he got some Republican politician to say dumb shit and got Dick Cheney to sign a water board jug. It’s offensive enough for liberals to seem like they’re not voting, but not radical enough to really “expose” anything.*

*Though one time he got some hotel manager to reveal that he can procure underage girls. They reported it to the FBI, but he likely reported one of their own agents.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

It wasn't Sacha Baron Cohen who signed it.

It was Colonel Erran Morad.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember the end of the Chicago Seven when he did a revisionism stating that the USA system is the best and working within it is the only way to go?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

when he did a revisionism

Aaron Sorkin wrote and directed that movie, I don't think you can pin that all on SBC

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder he exploited and ridiculed deeply impoverished people in rural Romania while making Borat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7686885.stm

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

My Romanian friend says he is absolutely despised there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The dude is a raging zionist, so he didn't take much convincing.