hexbear

I brought up my perspective in the other post and to be fair I don't really know how the defed process works but if this is a voting thing I vote against defederation.

I've seen lots of positive interactions with lemmygrad users, more than any other instance by far, and if defed from them we might as well just dump federation all together.

(I'm only posting here since the thread got locked. I don't actually want to defed from Lemmygrad at this time anyways.)

Them, a bunch of soyjaks: Nooooooo, we need to keep downvotes, how do we show displeasure at lib posts noooooo

Me, a gigachad: We should get rid of upvotes as well and retvrn to phpBB forums.

But seriously, that admin is full of shit and always had sus vibes to me. Upvotes and downvotes only came about in Web 2.0 social media sites and even then, it's mostly a Reddit thing. Old-school forums didn't have any of that bullshit. It's very obvious that upvotes/downvotes are used to drive up engagement (people get mad that the wrong thing got upvoted/downvoted) as well as provide a quantifiable metric that the algo, which purposely feeds people angry slop that further drives engagement, can use. So their nonsense of "getting rid of downvotes is lib" is just that, nonsense. The real lib move is to keep the upvote/downvote paradigm that was set up by a shitty social media corporation. Mao's Combat Liberalism, if they are so inclined to consider a shitty Reddit clone as a form of combating liberalism, stipulates that we're supposed to actually explain shit to people, not press a shitty downvote button.

Their grips about the evil Hexbearian somehow imposing their site culture on their instance is also nonsense. First of all, they (and the vast majority of Lemmy instances) don't have a unique site culture. They're just Reddit clones with the same shitty Reddit-derived semblance of site culture. Oh no, their genzedong-derived culture will have to change. How will they possibly cope. Second of all, a prominent Hexbear user advocating for good changes to make their instance less shitty isn't imposition. Have Hexbear admins threaten the Lemmygrad admins to defederate Hexbear from Lemmygrad? Did Hexbears do a brigardino^TM^ and mass upvoted your comments? No, we have not. The OP of that thread is a Lemmygrad user, as demonstrated by the numerous posts on Hexbear using a Lemmygrad account, so they can't accuse us of creating alts and trying to change their instance from within. And finally, getting rid of downvotes isn't even exclusively a Hexbear thing since the chasers over at blahaj had done so as well.

I already 100% supported this when you first brought it up, but i have to repeat this after having had another run-in with one of their usual mysogynist debatebro pigs earlier who was getting off about "dishonorable" sex workers on lemmy.ml. Fuck lemmygrad, it's become a reactionary shithole full of redditor brainrot. Fuck federation in its entirity, this thing has been a total shit show. Defederate from everything, i don't want this site to become micro reddit.

Support whatever our trans comrades support

I vote to remain federated with Lemmygrad. If I have a chance I'll discuss why later.