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Accepting gay people as humans with rights isn't a religion, it's just basic decency. There is not such a thing as LGBTQism, there is just an ever shrinking space in polite society that is tolerant to bigotry against them. In time bigotry against them will be an automatic disinvitation from polite society.
Calling abortion immoral IS your religious ideology and was generally a weird fringe belief of puritans and Catholics before right wing radicals in America made it the corner stone of their culture wars.
Your attempt to recontextualize the quotes from these people which clearly advocated for the separation of church and state and for not making policy based on religious ideas as somehow being endorsements of any religious ideology is insincere and fails to respect the nature of their beliefs or the words they so clearly stated.
Feel free to create a list of rights which normal US citizens have but gay persons lack...
The immorality of abortion is in almost all religions, not what ever you think my religion is... Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and Catholicism all consider abortion as the harming of another individual. Simply deciding to not follow any religion does not exclude an individual from the laws regarding murder.
The founders of the United States, who were influenced by the Enlightenment era and its ideals of individual rights and religious tolerance, sought to establish a government that would avoid the pitfalls they witnessed in theocratic monarchies of their time. Many of the founding fathers, such as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Benjamin Franklin, were well-versed in history and understood the dangers of intertwining religious authority with political power. They had witnessed firsthand the conflicts, oppression, and persecution that arose from state-enforced religious doctrines and the influence of religious institutions on government affairs.
By establishing a secular government, the founding fathers aimed to create a society where individuals could freely practice their faith, or choose not to follow any religion, without fear of persecution or coercion. They sought to prevent the dominance of a single religious group and the potential for religious strife that they had witnessed in Europe. This has allowed for a diverse society with a wide range of religious beliefs to coexist, and it has fostered a culture of religious tolerance and individual freedom that continues to be an important aspect of American society today.
This whataboutism is total BS...the entire GOPq is fascist, racist, and they cater to only to their donor class...which the majority of them are POS religious zealots...which fits their fascist racist theological ideology which is to turn the US into their VS christian jihad....sick of the GOPq and SCOTUS too, who have twisted the constitution to meet their fucked up agenda and to gain and hold on to power at whatever cost! There is absolutely no fucking comparison for what the past PoS president did and continues to do...meanwhile the other scumfucks like Desantis turns FL in DeathSantistan with his BS tactics and agenda...fucking suck and disgusting they way everyone in the GOP treats marginalized US citizens...then they fucking turn around and say they are Patriotic...Not fucking even close... Traitors!
Feel free to create a list of rights which republicans have rescinded. Remember, making a fair and equal playing field for everyone is called equality, "gender affirming care" is just a lib buzz word for "gender denial", and the ability to murder isn't a "human right". So, good luck with that request.
Second request, feel free to create a list of laws which republicans have enacted that are "theocratic". Abortion restrictions are actually just laws concerning murder. Everyone has access to affordable contraceptives. And there are no widespread "Sunday Blue Laws" that are actively enforced? So, you make it sound like you're just confused.
Libs will find any excuse to deny their patriotism. "Stolen land" without realizing nearly all land in the world has been stolen at one point. "Built on slavery" without realizing United States was one of the first countries to abolish slavery. The list goes on... Meanwhile, republicans remain patriotic even when the libs are in power screwing everything up.
I'd LOVE to hear why you keep adding a "q" to GOP? Is that like lbgtQism?
Regardless of all that. I sincerely hope that you can find your chill, my friend.
Judaism doesn't consider abortion the harming of another individual, and in fact supports an interpretation of life beginning at first breath; this is broadly accepted Rabbinic opinion supported by Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 2:7. In fact, the Mishnah states that if a woman is having trouble giving birth, then the child should be cut up and removed limb by limb as the life of the mother comes before the child. The Mishnah goes on to say that this procedure may not be done if the majority of the baby has emerged, as that would be valuing one life over another.
On Christianity, Catholicism is the only major sect that has an official ruling on a specific point in gestation being the beginning of life, that being conception. Among protestants, opinions on abortion are far more varied and nuanced. It shouldn't be surprising that protestant views on abortion have been surveyed in the past and exhibited a split between mainline protestant beliefs and fundamentalist beliefs. As shown in the linked data, 53% of mainline conservatives polled are in favour of abortion if the mother is married and doesn't want more children. In fact, according to a 2001 study into women seeking abortion in America, Protestants formed the largest group of women seeking abortions; 43% of women seeking abortion were protestant, up from 37% in 1994. While instances of Catholic abortion had declined since 1994, they still formed the second largest group of women seeking abortion, at 27%.