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I realised something. If all of these big tech firms collectively banded together and left the EU market in joint protest towards their regulations, how quickly would these countries go into civil unrest?
Social media addiction is no joke...
About as quickly as alternative platforms can replace them because of the incredible market advantage.
Lemmy, Threads and Mastodon proved they just move to the next network.
Threads is a terrible example of this. They just made everyone with an instagram account there. Not saying the others are better examples, mastodon has quite the user numbers by now but is probably still too niche in use.
Yeah all 2k of you. Lemmy is an absolute failure in bringing in new users at a commercial failure. No way most of the population is going to go on here with tankie communist admins banning people left and right, and talks about defederation every week from the rest.
This is peak.
Calling Lemmy a commercial failure shows a massive lack of understanding of even the basics of what Lemmy is.
π I'm sure these servers will pay for themselves and admins are going to keep on doing their own csam scan each week and deal with the reporting for free forever.
The donations go away. The goodwill goes away. Successful open source communities always get commercial backing.
Bluesky is the likely winner here if anything.
Lemmy is not a commercial project, you're thinking about it the wrong way. It's run for free by volunteers.
Open source projects without commercial backing die. Especially when they require infrastructure and aren't personal services eg *are + jellyfin. You don't have to like it but nearly every single one with a long life span has commercial support up or down stream.
Again, you're still thinking about it the wrong way. This isn't an organisation, dude. There is no product, there are no workers or employers. It doesn't live or die. That's the nature of the fediverse.
Great explanation. On top of that, every open source program that is 10 yrs and older laughs out loud right now. Not everything needs commercial backing. Also, nobody said lemmy isnβt going to get fiancial support at some point.
No. The goal is very clearly to recreate social media, Twitter and Reddit respectively. That requires a minimal social mass.
Despite best efforts what has been recreated here is a forum with a child porn propagation problem.
Mastodon has been more successful but I believe that bluesky will win out. It's already more popular and invite only.
...lemmy was only ever intended to be a forum. And the CSAM problem is old news that was already fixed with an automatic black box solution.
The fediverse will not die as long as there is even one person willing and capable of running an instance.
Begone, Elon.
Oh I guess all those social media giants pay teams of people for this out of the kindness of their hearts.
Why on Earth would "social media giants" want to support lemmy? And how is this statement relevant?
Go back to reddit.
No.
Yeah, extremist political instances like hexbear and Lemmygrad are killing Lemmy.
I'd be embarrassed to even tell anyone I use it in it's current state, but I'm still hopeful it can clean up and be good.
I'm somewhat hopeful lemmy world has the idea, but I'm less hopeful the community is going to keep the lights on with bills.
Yeah that's a hurdle the fediverse has yet to address.
It would be nice with alternative platforms, but I think each and everyone of the originals would break the coalition attempting to screw the rest over and gain the market, long before alternatives could be made.
I don't think these sites have anything inherent that can't be replicated and replaced rather quickly
I mean, the established userbase and subsequently communities. That's why I still look at Reddit sometimes, there are some communities that aren't effectively on the Fediverse due to lack of users.
But yeah. forcing the entire population out of a social media plattform by leaving the EU would change this quickly.
Man i hope so. That would be the wet dream of any free alernative and startup
People might actually get some rest. The last few years have been hectic due to social media.
I see your point though. Like how people took to the streets to protest the change of coca cola in '85. One protester went as far as say:
... because New Coke didn't taste the same - they had to go back to coke 'classic'. π€·ββοΈ
Because there are no alternatives?