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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man if Libre peeps and OnlyOffice UI/UX devs joined forces, we would be living in the year 3000.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been using LibreOffice as an MS Office replacement for a decade or so, although most of my documents are still on Google docs. The LibreOffice UI seems to have never really improved at all, and even the updating experience is annoying. I don't understand how such a lucrative productivity app has no developer support behind it?

OpenOffice got me really excited, because that UI seems modern and polished. It's really unfortunate that it's mostly we lb based and apparently really slow.

So yeah, 100% agree with you. LibreOffice with the OpenOffice UI would be 🔥

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oops, yeah, I did!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Btw, There's about 4 UI's with two variants each in view > user interface.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I did not know that, I'll check out the other options, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Idk, LibreOffice UI seems pretty decent for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's this the new UI? It's been a while since I use LibreOffice and the UI was worse than office 2003.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's not a default but I just changed it to tabbed view in the settings, picked Sifr icons in the settings, and installed adw-gtk3 theme on GNOME which makes gtk3 apps blend more with the default libadwaita GNOME theme.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's actually not bad! Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Neat, the customization does help make it look a lot better than the defaults. I wonder why they didn't just make this the new UI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Actually my dad prefer the default UI. But he used Windows 95 and the office suite that goes with it for a long time, so his habits are hard to loose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm impressed by how they were able to make a worse ribbon interface than Microsoft itself.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only problem with that logic is that OnlyOffice is a webapp, thus slow. Libre is Java but still faster.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

AFAIK Libreoffice only uses Java for limited things and isn’t a requirement.

Pretty sure it’s mostly C++

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct, Java is only needed for (letter) templates and macros.
I used it for years without any JVM installed... until I wanted to use a template. :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Macros should work without JVM. But a few extensions (like the NLP Solver and LanguageTool) require Java.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you can disable the Java part somewhere in settings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Advanced and uncheck Use a Java runtime environment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay this is interesting, but still slow as hell to launch and it does fell like a Java app in a lot of ways. Funky UI behaviors like flickering and delays here and there...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Small update, under Windows, if one disables Java, Skia rendering and anti-aliasing it seems to go way faster and the UI behaves better:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I find it a lot snappier in Fedora than on windows.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Nothing is snappy under GNOME.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being "slower" for an office app is not a deal breaker imo. Having less smooth scrolling or 1s slower image insertion does not negatively impact my ability to write shitty reports.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure, until you're dealing with a 50 page document and even the cursor lags and becomes impossible to move stuff around and/or scroll without having to wait looking at "empty pages" that will eventually display your content after 2-3 seconds :)