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this is why I was hesitant to list more examples, because I knew I might get a five-seconds-on-google shotgun response like this and then I would have to write an arduous reply with a lot more effort than you put in, and in the time it takes me to write that reply people see a few paragraphs with links and assume you wrote a slam dunk.
fuck it, I'm posting this now and then editing in more stuff as I go
for starters, your scary-looking "misinformation circulation online" link is talking about death figures due to the bombing. That's not the fucking point, the point is the removal of Qaddafi and the ensuing power vacuum and political breakdown in Libya. You get there in your next sentence, where you act like you're correcting me (and misspell Libya), but then take all the blame off NATO with a vague wave of the hand. Who do you think overthrew Qaddafi? Who armed and supported the rebels? Who bombed his fucking motorcade?
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna44234613
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/covert-teams-from-nato-members-provided-critical-assistance-to-libyan-rebels/
(warning, Atlantic Council link)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/france-sent-arms-to-libyan-rebels/2011/06/29/AGcBxkqH_story.html
Surprise, it was the fine countries of NATO!
I wonder what sort of motives NATO countries had to intervene in Libya?
https://www.foia.state.gov/Search/results.aspx?searchText=C05779612&beginDate=&endDate=&publishedBeginDate=&publishedEndDate=&caseNumber=
Shit, it was oil and imperialism!
And what about the public reasons for the intervention?
https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-k-parliament-report-details-how-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
Well shit, this all sounds a lot like Iraq. Why do we keep falling for the same bullshit over and over and over again?
First of all get out of here with your angsty corrections of anybody's misspellings like it matters. English is not my first language and I take shortcuts to remember spellings. That's some playground shit and I expect you to act like an adult.
Second, limit your arrogance, which is also part of my original point. If I started arguing something about any of my fields of study and you seem less versed, that doesn't give me the right to berate you for it.
Third, stick to the point. If you want to argue specifics about each of those events that's fine and I'm taking the time to follow up. But keep in mind my original argument: that you are willing to exaggerate and misrepresent your points in order to undermine the West while turning a blind eye on other countries and interests that you favor while at the same time being arrogant about it.
what if I acted like I was well-versed and scoffed at your opinions about a subject you knew more than me about?
it's not arrogance, it's frustration. That's also why I pointed out the misspelling, to point out that you don't know about this topic and yet you are confident in your opinions about it.
Libya is not an English word, it's a country name β but that said, I didn't consider that your language might use a totally different script, e.g., in Chinese, Libya is ε©ζ―δΊ