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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No you don't understand, what is Israel supposed to do when Palestine does that?

But don't you wonder why Palestine is doing that in the first place? It's because Israel did that thing before.

But Israel did that thing because Palestine did that other thing

But Palestine had no option but to do that because of what Israel did months before

But Israel had done that because of years of that

But how is that Palestine's problem? They only did that because what else would've they done?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The neat thing about history is that it exists in the material world. You can actually trace that sequence of events back to a thing that happened. In particular the Original Sin of this conflict is The Nakba. To pretend this great tragedy is somehow transcendental or beyond understanding is pure liberalism and an attempt to whitewash the crimes of the Israeli state. The violence is mutual but far from symmetric. One side is the oppressor and the other - the oppressed. Any pretense that it exists on a flat moral space is a distortion of the actual material conditions that exist.

Free Palestine palestine-heart

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I'm just pointing out how social media discussions are just "but but..." or "why can't they just...". It isn't worth giving attention to opinions of celebs and influencers when the conflict is ongoing and repercussions of quickly siding with one or the other without paying close attention to the nuances and attempts of white washing are pretty huge.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is holding Palestinians in an area without letting them come and go as they please. Israel controls the flow of food, water, electricity, and building materials into Gaza. Israel controls who can travel for life-saving (often simple) medical treatment BECAUSE THE FUCKING HOSPITALS IN GAZA CAN'T GET THE MACHINES/MATERIALS TO TREAT THEIR PEOPLE.

No but please, GO OFF KING and build up this strawman "Palestinian supporter" that doesn't understand history and present that as a justification for settler colonialism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. I'm just pointing out how social media discussions are just "but but..." or "why can't they just...".