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They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog "Tutsi."

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

"They are breaking down the safe room door," Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. "We need someone to come by the house right now." She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the "sweetest biggest heart," who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did they? I saw a video of an explosion NEAR the border, not hitting the crowd. Is that what you're talking about?

There's for sure going to be a lot of collateral damage. Hamas uses their own people as human shields.

That's 100 percent on Hamas and on the Palestinian people who allow it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pass to egypt? That egypt had to close, because of israeli bombings? The pass israel explicitly told palestinian refugees to use to flee to egypt?

Hamas didnt use them as shields. Israel told them where to go to be safe, and then killed them for trusting their word.

Thats got fuckall to do with hamas. Quit making excuses for the inhuman monsters who populate the israeli government.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're the one making excuses for inhuman monsters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, those damned palestinian civilians. How dare they flee for their lives.

The fuck is wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're making excuses for Hamas. This is their war. They hide among their own women and children to use them as human shields.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where in the statement "israel should not bomb civilian refugees who are escaping via the route israel told them to take in order to not be killed by israeli bombs" is hamas being excused?

You are making up non existant imagined enemies who, for some reason, want to leave the battlefield to go to egypt, instead of fight the war they started, in order to justify israeli genocidial war crimes.

Again. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only war crimes I've seen evidence for are those of Hamas.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol then maybe get your head out of your ass. Israel has been committing war crimes for over a decade.

Newspapers globally have spent all day retracting claims of hamas attacks after 3rd party sources confirm the damage was caused by israel attacks. WSJ just retracted the beheaded baby claim, because they cant find a non israel source for it, and cant find any bodies. LAT just retracted the rape claims for the same reason.

Israel is trying to use hamas as an excuse to just start a genocide, and trying to stick them with the blame for their civilian attacks.

Yes, hamas has been killing civilians. But unfortunately they are not the only ones doing so.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have they?

Or has the internal community just decided that collateral damage is a war crime when Israel does it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, again, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Israel declared a refugee passage. Any bombing of refugee exit routes is a war crime. Period.

Israel bombed the passage they declared as safe for refugee travel so badly, egypt had to close it off.

They intentionally bombed the only civilian exit they offered for refugees. Thats not collateral damage. Thats a war crime.

Youre excited they are killing innocent children, arent you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're make a lot of claims without providing evidence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The same could be said of you.

Oh, except I have actually provided a few sources in the thread. Huh, thats weird, are those facts upsetting for you?