Comradeship // Freechat

2173 readers

74 users here now

Talk about whatever, respecting the rules established by Lemmygrad. Failing to comply with the rules will grant you a few warnings, insisting on breaking them will grant you a beautiful shiny banwall.

A community for comrades to chat and talk about whatever doesn't fit other communities

founded 3 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Is it wrong how I’m repeatedly relating Jews to discussions on Palestine? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

4 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Some of you have likely noticed that I have a tendency to relate a Palestinian situation directly to Jews somehow, and I’ll be honest, I feel kind of weird doing it because proportionately speaking the Palestinian gentiles are suffering more than the Jewish citizens. I guess that it would be like repeatedly talking about Italians (e.g. Antonio Gramsci) while the Fascists were atrociously assaulting Africans.

Should I feel guilty? I don’t know… maybe I shouldn’t feel guilty. I mean, since a lot of Zionists like to focus on Jews when discussing Palestine and whatnot, maybe it’s important to have somebody doing that albeit from the opposite end of the spectrum, if that makes sense. I certainly don’t want to overshadow discussions on Palestinians, nor am I going to pretend that the suffering that they and Jews face is somehow equal, but given how many like to justify or overlook Zionist atrocities by centering the subject on Jews, maybe it’s important to have a kind of counterbalance to that.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can distinguish Zionists from Jews, that’d be cool, but I’ll give you the Jew Pass for not doing so, because that connection is our fault exclusively.

Everyone here is distinguishing between Zionists and Jews. In all communist circles I'm a part of or that I've seen, everyone is distinguishing between Zionists and Jews. Even Hamas distinguishes between Zionists and Jews. Even other Jews distinguish themselves from Zionists, no matter how hard the Israeli regime tries to equate the two.

maybe you just lose some of your humanity after that many years of occupation?

There is no credible evidence that Hamas or the various other resistance groups (including PFLP) have "lost their humanity". This is all Zionist propaganda. 3/4ths of the settlers that died were IDF. I said "died" because some settlers were killed by their own side. There's videos around of them protecting women and children. The operations targeted military targets. Hamas has always been clear about this. In all the years they have existed (as well as the other resistance groups, and the PLO before them), there has never been one accusation of rape that stuck beyond atrocity propaganda. Not one accusation of "beheading" that stuck. The Palestinian resistance is not a drug cartel or ISIL. They don't behead people. They take targets prisoner and eliminate IOF officers.

Very strange things to say for a 1 day old account from another instance. Feels like you're trying to get us to say "yeah actually Hamas did some horrible shit too". They didn't. Stop implying they did.

[+] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[removed by mod]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went and checked and the only evidence of sexual abuse is that video of the girl in the tender, Shani Louk,

There is no evidence Shani Louk was sexually assaulted and anyone who says so is telling me they've never been to a rave without telling me they've never been. It's not out of the ordinary for women at raves to dress (or underdress) like this. It's possible she was changing clothes too when the firefight started.

In the video of the pickup truck nobody gives a fuck about her, except one guy that walks up and spits on her. And in that moment, considering what both the guard and the guy on the side have lived in Gaza, their shared life experience, yeah, I don't blame the guard on the pickup for not giving a fuck that someone would spit on a Zionist. They also brought her to a hospital in Gaza so the video likely shows them transporting her.

But no evidence of her being sexually assaulted, being underdressed is not an indicator.

In any case thank you for clarifying some stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's a reasonable explanation, cheers for taking the time and hearing me out