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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They didn’t issue a formal declaration of war.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There’s only one point under discussion here: Israel is calling this a declaration of war after years of refusing to acknowledge Palestinian statehood.

That means they’re playing the optics for a western audience in a self serving, hypocritical way. And geez it might take me an entire bathroom sit to assemble a list of more.

Hamas doesn’t have a PR strategy for the west. They’re just attacking. It’s not right but at least it’s not theater.

Let the American audience understand when they are being played to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel accepted the original plan to have an independent Palestinian state. Palestine rejected it and started the 1947 civil war in an attempt to exterminate the Jews living there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The borders of the state of Palestine would be "based on the pre-1967 borders". The latest resolution, in November 2013, was passed 165 to 6, with 6 abstentions;[5] with Israel and the United States voting against.[6]

The Palestinian leadership has embraced the concept since the 1982 Arab Summit in Fez.[7] Israel views moves by Palestinian leaders to obtain international recognition of a State of Palestine as being unilateral action by the Palestinians and inconsistent with a negotiated two-state solution.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#:~:text=The%20two%2Dstate%20solution%20to,west%20of%20the%20Jordan%20River.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

LOL downvoting a direct quote. That’s rich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That means they’re playing the optics for a western audience in a self serving, hypocritical way. ... Hamas doesn’t have a PR strategy for the west. They’re just attacking. It’s not right but at least it’s not theater.

I'm less worried about the hypocrisy and theatrics, than I am about civilian deaths.

But you do you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be, because the u.s. will use this theater to justify sending huge amounts of military aid to Israel to level Gaza. Fuck Hamas but the u.s. sending more weapons over isn't going to help this situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gaza is something like 300km^2. Israel has more than enough to level it a thousand times over. They have hundreds of artillery pieces, hundreds of fighters, an entire navy, something like a thousand tanks, ...

Hell, given they likely have hundreds of nukes, they could level the entire middle-east and end global civilisation as we know it.

The US giving Israel more military aid now, is politics. Not much more.