God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

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[–] 185 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

This thread is an embarrassment, I can't believe there are people on Hexbear handwringing about violence against settler civilians. Did Native Americans never kill colonizer civilians? Are we going to start condemning the Haitian revolutionaries?

Israelis are constantly pretending they live in fear of being killed by Palestinian "terrorists". Have they considered fucking leaving, which is an option the Palestinians don't even have? No Israeli children would be in a position to be killed in the fighting or held hostage if their colonizer parents hadn't put them there. These children are victims, but they're victims of their colonizer parents and colonizer politicians.

You want to talk about children being held hostage to ensure compliance from adults? How many Palestinian children are there in the open air prison of Gaza, where 2/3 of the population are under 25 years old?

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Agreed. However I think there are only a few apartheid apologists in this thread and the vast majority have the correct line on the struggle for Palestine liberation. They should be banned though

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  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You're right, there are only a few. However, I'm surprised and disappointed that there are any at all.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Every new conflict and event in the real world will reveal another segment of chauvinism from westerners. It’s amazing we can spend 2 years beating liberals into the correct position on Ukraine and then another event sparks off and the libs are back on square one again. They learn nothing

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Good faith peaceniks shouldnt be banned, even if they are "wrong".

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Those who wish to defend settlers against their rightful removal from their stolen land and the creation of a state that will right the wrongs inflicted upon the oppressed people of Palestinian are wrong and should be banned.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Are you conflating ghosts with what people are actually asserting? I haven't seen any posts implying that the resistance isn't righteous.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Idk about that. Like belief in the necessity of violent revolution is fundamental to being a leftist. Life, if we're gonna have a leftist unity site here, that's the biggest thing I'm agreeing with other tendencies about. Anyone not on board with that isn't my comrade

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    literally Jewish (born and raised), have been to Israel, somehow less sympathetic towards Israel than some posters in this thread visible-disgust

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    like I've infamously taken really long to add an israel-cool emote with an actual flag (which we now have idf-cool) since burning the star of david makes me feel very icky, but that's a ways away from actually both-sidesing the conflict/running agitprop for the poor brooklynite settlers settlers lea-tired

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    In a scenario of worldwide socialism, I think almost all ethnic disputes could be solved using the land of the US, Canada and Australia

    The Anglo settler states are very empty and underpopulated, and a global socialist order would also make possible massive irrigation projects

    Whether it's Kurds, Jews, or whomever else who wants separateness, it should all be solveable by giving them a slice of Colorado or the Outback

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    That's an offer that can only be made by the indigenous peoples of those lands, and it feels kind of icky to hear someone in the present saying North America and Australia are up for grabs because they're underpopulated.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    Fighting against Settlers is based but I could cut some slack to people who were born in occupied Palestine and have lived there for their entire lives. But then again, these new generation Settlers have been conditioned to normalise apartheid and genocide in the occupied territory so they can go fuck themselves.

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