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Over 100 Israelis have died and more than 900 were injured after rockets were fired from Gaza by Hamas militants, Israeli officials said Saturday.

The Palestinian Health Ministry said 198 were killed in Gaza and at least 1,610 were injured Saturday in retaliatory attacks from Israel.

"We are at war. We will win," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday.

The Israeli Defense Forces earlier declared "a state of alert for war," according to a statement issued by the IDF.

"Over the past hour, the Hamas terrorist organization launched massive barrages of rockets from Gaza into Israel, and its terrorist operatives have infiltrated into Israel in a number of different locations in the south," the IDF said early Saturday.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, definitionally Hamas is the aggressor here. The force Israel has traditionally employed in response is nowhere near proportional or responsible, but they have rarely been the inciter in large-scale armed conflicts.

Bombast and hyperbole don't win you arguments or minds on topics like this. Let the atrocities of Israel's violent apartheid speak for themselves, free of embellishment.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So what you're saying is Israel has killed over 4000 Palestinians this decade, including 200 this year prior to this attack, and Palestine launches a counter-attack that leaves 40 dead, and because Palestine retaliated to initial attacks they are now the aggressor "definitionally"? Is the only way to not be labeled the aggressor to soak up every single death at the hands of apartheid in stride?

If you take 10 punches and then throw 1, you are not the aggressor and for anyone to suggest such is for them to side with the aggressor.

Not to mention, I'm having a hard time imagining someone saying "[Israel has] rarely been the inciter in large-scale armed conflicts" while simultaneously looking at the map of Israel carving up the Palestinian homeland to shreds.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is an illegal occupying force. As such they are inherently always the aggressor.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok antisemite. Israel is defending itself from terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Abusing the term antisemitism to deflect criticism from an apartheid regime is disgusting.