▲ 845 ▼ Kevin McCarthy is ousted as House speaker in a historic vote pushed by conservatives (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 263 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] deksesuma@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Democratic senator from an otherwise red state. He tends to be a spoiler for Democratic plans, along with Kristen Synema. If the GOP was closer to the center, he would likely switch parties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) He's not all bad. He has let the democrats get through as many judges as possible. That said, he is a bad look for the party hands down. He allows moderates to believe democrats have a plurality when really they are just being lead by the people the least to the left. So when things go wrong it was the other 48's fault but not really. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean christofascist supreme court justices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago No, the various federal benches. Which, incidentally, were the only federal positions that Trump had been filling with any urgency. Ambassadors and heads of departments all went unfilled, but not judges. So now the federal bench is stuffed with Trump appointees, and Democrats are only pushing back a bit. If they had any sense, they'd quadruple the size of the federal judiciary and stuff it back up. The size hasn't been increased in a while, and the workload per judge has been pilling up, so there's a good reason to do this, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ... no Joe Manchin has not helped the democrats appoint any christofascist Supreme Court Justices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) ??? No, he helped the fucking Republicans do it. Wtf man? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) from an otherwise red state Not really, his voters overwhelmingly support progressive policies. It's just no progressive has a chance in the primary with the party blocking all of Manchin's primary opponents. It has been on a downswing lately tho. 2016 there was more D than R voters, and 2021 it got tied up. I do t know why everyone acts like all these "red states" are worth writing off, it really wouldn't be hard if we actually tried for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I don't know where you're getting there being more D than R voters in WV. The last two presidential elections went to Trump by 40 points permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Manchin is a senator, which means the election is state-wide, and West Virginia is a deeply red state. A Progressive candidate has 0 chance in West Virginia and any claim otherwise is quite simply wishful thinking. Let's leave the Bernie Math in 2016 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Ugh I'm not gonna try like a little fuckwit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alterforlett@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Thank you permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) He's not all bad. He has let the democrats get through as many judges as possible. That said, he is a bad look for the party hands down. He allows moderates to believe democrats have a plurality when really they are just being lead by the people the least to the left. So when things go wrong it was the other 48's fault but not really. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean christofascist supreme court justices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago No, the various federal benches. Which, incidentally, were the only federal positions that Trump had been filling with any urgency. Ambassadors and heads of departments all went unfilled, but not judges. So now the federal bench is stuffed with Trump appointees, and Democrats are only pushing back a bit. If they had any sense, they'd quadruple the size of the federal judiciary and stuff it back up. The size hasn't been increased in a while, and the workload per judge has been pilling up, so there's a good reason to do this, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ... no Joe Manchin has not helped the democrats appoint any christofascist Supreme Court Justices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) ??? No, he helped the fucking Republicans do it. Wtf man? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) You mean christofascist supreme court justices? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago No, the various federal benches. Which, incidentally, were the only federal positions that Trump had been filling with any urgency. Ambassadors and heads of departments all went unfilled, but not judges. So now the federal bench is stuffed with Trump appointees, and Democrats are only pushing back a bit. If they had any sense, they'd quadruple the size of the federal judiciary and stuff it back up. The size hasn't been increased in a while, and the workload per judge has been pilling up, so there's a good reason to do this, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ... no Joe Manchin has not helped the democrats appoint any christofascist Supreme Court Justices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) ??? No, he helped the fucking Republicans do it. Wtf man? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago No, the various federal benches. Which, incidentally, were the only federal positions that Trump had been filling with any urgency. Ambassadors and heads of departments all went unfilled, but not judges. So now the federal bench is stuffed with Trump appointees, and Democrats are only pushing back a bit. If they had any sense, they'd quadruple the size of the federal judiciary and stuff it back up. The size hasn't been increased in a while, and the workload per judge has been pilling up, so there's a good reason to do this, anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) ... no Joe Manchin has not helped the democrats appoint any christofascist Supreme Court Justices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) ??? No, he helped the fucking Republicans do it. Wtf man? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) ??? No, he helped the fucking Republicans do it. Wtf man? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago The Republicans didn't need his help. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) from an otherwise red state Not really, his voters overwhelmingly support progressive policies. It's just no progressive has a chance in the primary with the party blocking all of Manchin's primary opponents. It has been on a downswing lately tho. 2016 there was more D than R voters, and 2021 it got tied up. I do t know why everyone acts like all these "red states" are worth writing off, it really wouldn't be hard if we actually tried for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I don't know where you're getting there being more D than R voters in WV. The last two presidential elections went to Trump by 40 points permalink fedilink source parent [–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Manchin is a senator, which means the election is state-wide, and West Virginia is a deeply red state. A Progressive candidate has 0 chance in West Virginia and any claim otherwise is quite simply wishful thinking. Let's leave the Bernie Math in 2016 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Ugh I'm not gonna try like a little fuckwit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I don't know where you're getting there being more D than R voters in WV. The last two presidential elections went to Trump by 40 points permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* Manchin is a senator, which means the election is state-wide, and West Virginia is a deeply red state. A Progressive candidate has 0 chance in West Virginia and any claim otherwise is quite simply wishful thinking. Let's leave the Bernie Math in 2016 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago Ugh I'm not gonna try like a little fuckwit permalink fedilink source parent