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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it was an anti industrialist movement in rural england. Basically what people who like the unabomber think the unabomber was

similar to how some people read paradise lost and think the devil is sympathetic without realising that Milton was also using the book as a vehicle to express his own radical opinions about the civil war - basically if you read paradise lost and found the anti-hierarchy stuff appealing you don't like the devil you like Oliver Cromwell

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it was workers destroying the products of their own labor instead of seizing them from the bourgeoisie because pro-labor movements before Marx not yet developed an internally consistent theory of surplus value. it was also not anti-industrialist. It was simple flash-in-the-pan anger at technological unemployment. They were not opposed to technology in other areas of society outside their craft. So it was a form of craft consciousness, as Debs calls it, rather than class consciousness.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maybe but they did focus their destruction on the industrial machines. It wasn't a very organised movement and it didn't have a well thought out stance on things but it was an anti-industrial movement.