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submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Warning: r slurs in the follow ups in the thread.

https://twitter.com/puella_meiberu/status/1708621428327657816

my reactions are as follows: Even if thats true, which it isnt for every autistic person, the reality is right now is that jobs dont have accomodations for neurdivergent thinking so its irrelevant to say that. Like we can push for and advocate for more inclusive workplaces, but its not the reality autsitic people are dealing with rn.

Especially since like, there are jobs that autistic people can do well but most of them are not "entry level" jobs that anyone can get without qualifications. Retail and food service jobs are near impossible for most autistic people and those are the jobs you can get easy. Manual labor jobs arent much better. I've worked at an after school program but I only lasted as long as I did because my original boss let me get away with not "running activities" the reality is that even if you're good with kids like me most jobs with kids have expectaitons that arent just "being good with kids" that arent good for autistic people. Idk about office stuff.

It reminds me of my ex-friend who claimed to be communist but had a lot of reactionairy attitudes. He always told me that if I ever called him on something and told him it was ableist he would take it seriously, and even called out others when they treated me abliestly. But one day when he posted on his Twitter shitting on Spoon Theory I texted him to call him on that and he started ranting all this shit about how you can "always push through" and talking about how his manual labor job cured his depression (and acting like that will be the case for everyone if they just push, and that manual labor is a cure all) and then started accusing me of wasting my life and making excuses and using my disability as a criticism shield. We no longer talk much lol.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it depends on how you are on the spectrum. There are high level functioning autists who barely has it affect them. Then there's definitely those who can't even function enough to handle a simple job. The latter definitely needs government assistance. But it's a spectrum, so I'm not sure at what point you can call it disabling you in some sense.

I think it's probably sufficient to self diagnose if you need it or not at that point, but after you've been actually professionally diagnosed.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Idk I'm "high functioning" though I dont really like that term and my last experience with employment was so traumatizing that Ive got on benefits for about 8 years and still dont feel ready to go back. I think the types of jobs people can easily get without qualifications are generally not good even for people who would be called "high functioning" generally speaking.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I think what you're hitting on here is really where the breakdown is occurring for a lot of these conversations. Work is alienating, it makes us depressed and stresses us out and hurts our bodies, none of us enjoy it. So when someone hears a neurodiverse perspective on how work really isn't set up to help someone with autism succeed they think "Well no shit, it's not like I'm loving it here either, nobody is." We're all just doing something bad because we have to, which can make it seem like somebody is trying to avoid doing the unpleasant thing the rest of us do because they've found a loophole. People hide this basic feeling in rhetoric about building character or the importance of perseverance or whatever, but they're really just rationalizing how unpleasant work is, which means they have very little empathy for someone else expressing how unpleasant working is for them.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Which is exactly where you get those attitudes that completely minimise or dismiss neurodivergent experiences.

When an autistic person says "I can't focus with the hum of the refrigerator in the background", they aren't complaining, they aren't seeking affirmation that other people find the hum annoying too, and they aren't hyperbolising. They're literally trying to say "I can't focus in this environment" but they'll get responses like "Haha, yeah. It's annoying isn't it?" or "Just tune it out and focus on something different" or "Well, we all get distracted by things sometimes..."

I find it really frustrating that autistic people are expected to be completely fine up until they reach their absolute breaking point, whether that's a meltdown or a shutdown or an episode of burnout.

It seems as though most neurotypical people only see the tip of the iceberg when it comes to those autistic breaking points but they never seem to realise that the very same autistic person has probably been just a few notches below their breaking point all day/week/longer and they don't consider what the impacts are on the individual from being in that state.

The lack of empathy really gets to me sometimes.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

It’s incredibly difficult to get diagnosed as an adult. Most of the people I know who got diagnosed as an adult first self diagnosed. 

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Just be awful at masking like me apparently. Ez pz GG.

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