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heated arguments with my dad (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I had some pretty brutal discussions with my dad who is a hardcore liberal of the "the answer lies somewhere between the middle of left and right" type. He agrees with a lot of socialist stances and class war but refuses to acknowledge that a revolution is needed to achieve socialism, that killing people wouldn't make us better than the owning class and that violence is bad and that we should try to change the system by voting that voting will bring lasting change and not a revolution....all this kind of crap. He thinks that i got too "radicalized" and that im stuck in a bubble of propaganda and now he wants to have more control of the media i consume and that when he sees me watching or reading an article that i show him the sources of these articles. He really wants me to "keep an open-mind" which to him literally just means returning to being a liberal. The more of these discussions i have with my father the more i feel a distance between us and i would love if we just ignored our political opinions and kept living our lives how we always did but he insists that i am being groomed by some megalomaniac organization or a goofy ah evil person to join some kind of leftist jihad: "Yes you are entitled to have your opinion but you should also keep an open mind but the problem is that your opinion is not correct" that all i hear from him.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've had some pretty heated discussions with my grandfather when I first became a communist. Eventually I just realized to him politics are a game. Sadly to a lot of people in the first world this is the case. Privilege clouds people's judgement. When they are too privileged, no amount of evidence will change their minds. After all, their privilege can only be maintained by the continuation of reactionary backwards policies.

Something that has made me much less frustrated about people becoming absolutely deranged about Russia, is the fact that Europe no longer has any cards to play on the world stage. From now on, this continent is headed for irrelevance, stagnation and decay. So Europeans can believe in the dumbest things possible, because they won't stop the progressive movements happening in the rest of the world. No matter how angry, racist and blood thirsty they get, they can't collapse Russia, they can't stop the rise of China, it seems they can't even stop Africa from regaining it's freedom.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yea I had very heated discussions with grandparents too. My grandma was born and raised in the USSR (left around late teens I believe) but that doesn’t mean she has good takes. She was cool with gay people because she had a gay male friend growing up, but she’s anti-trans, doesn’t really believe in modern feminism, super religious Catholic (which made her dislike some USSR policies later in life) and above all else, pretty damn racist. She’s now an avid Fox viewer and Trump supporter. Thanksgivings are rough lol especially election years

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The "game" is so infuriating.

There are so many white people in my life that love to talk about minority issues in front of minorities, yet disregard any minority opinion that makes them uncomfortable. It's a leisurely activity to them that they have no actual stake in.