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Women are less likely to receive CPR in public than men: Study (www.yahoo.com)
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[–] 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah but the mob around me watching me touch her breasts might not know that.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm not CPR certified or anything, but I think if you're just grabbing titties you're probably doing it wrong.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Can you post any example of a mob attacking someone for performing CPR on a woman?

    Seems like a pretty wild assumtion that you will be attacked for helping someone in a life threathening state by some nebulous "them."

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You’ve NEVER seen someone mis-perceive help as harm?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then you're either lying or not observant enough. Are you a man? Because if you aren't, it's likely you don't understand how it feels to get accused.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://japantoday.com/category/national/man-revives-woman-with-aed-but-branded-pervert-for-removing-her-clothes-to-apply-electrode-pads

    Stop trying to deny that it happens. It's risky af for men to help, why do you think they don't do it? Anyway why is it up to men to help? Why can't women help? Since they're obviously in a better position, and generally aren't considered perverts by default.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    How am I supposed to know which country you live in? And who are you to dictate how many arbitrary articles I need to provide? You said any news outlet.

    And just because you don't live there doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Carry on with your denial tho. It happens, and just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false. Why do good samaritan laws exist? Why are men reluctant to help? Are all men mad?

    My god. The mental gymnastics you'd go through just to pretend this doesn't happen. I'm out. Believe what you want, I'm not gonna try to educate the uneducateable.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Sure. Carry on then. Some people are extremely reluctant to change their view, even when they're obviously. That's what it means to be educateable. You can pretend it's a non-issue all you want, but why do these articles and study exist then? You make a lot of noise but you haven't been able to answer a single one of my questions.

    You're one of those who just hope that by being the most outraged, you'll get your way. Sorta like Trump. No wonder. Nah, you bother replying. Just carry on living in your bubble.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No. every case I've heard of is after the emergency was over someone gets the law involved. Harassment, but never a mob involved.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Care to cite any examples in the US of prosecutions or civil cases that weren't immediately tossed within the last 30 years? This was once a problem. Good Samaritan Laws were passed to fix it, probably before you were even born. You're just making stuff up.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For sure! But I didn’t say you WERE grabbing titties, just that you’re perceived to be.

    I mean just getting the electrodes on for a defibrillator you have to lift their shirt…

    Can you see that being perceived poorly?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Unlikely that someone holding a defibrillator next to someone passed out on the ground is going to be perceived poorly.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not everyone is going to have access to a defibrillator.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Fortunately they are cheap and easy to use correctly (and nearly impossible to use wrong), as such they are all over. If you are in a public place I'd be surprised if you didn't have ready access to a defibrillator in the US, though you may not realize where it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    You would think so, right? But the reality is that men are always assumed to have the worst intentions. Especially in hindsight. i.e. "he didn't need to do that right? he must be trying to cop a feel".

    Same reason men aren't usually kindergarten teachers, because they're immediately assumed to be pedos.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I mean just getting the electrodes on for a defibrillator you have to lift their shirt

    You also need to make sure their bra doesn't have an underwire and remove it if there is.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The instructors advise you to speak aloud your actions as you do them. Also helps if you have already levelled out instructions to the rent a crowd to perform specific tasks like send for help and get the defib and you three who said yes to cpr training let's line up and take turns doing cpr.

    ...of course, the training to be comfortable giving these instructions is not really done.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Absolutely!

    And what if you’re outside a bar and everyone is drunk?

    Unfortunately life doesn’t provide ideal scenarios, not to mention that under the duress of what you’re doing you may forget steps.

    I’m not saying that fondling an unconscious person is the same as cpr, but that perceptions are funny things.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Then put whichever Karen looks fiercest in charge of compressions. Either she'll get in there and do them, or she'll demur, in which case you say you will and she should watch so she can start when you get tired. That makes her your witness. Don't forget to tell someone else to call emergency services.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    By the time you try to convince any Karen to do anything, the person would have died.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If you’re touching her tits, you’re not giving proper CPR. Proper CPR happens just below the sternum. That’s well below any kind of bra band. If her tits are that low, she’s either an EE cup or 80 years old.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Huh, I looked it up and checked out the instructions and diagrams of several websites. Every one of them said to place your hands on the upper part of the chest and every image showed their hands between the nipples.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    You need to compress the chest, so pressure needs to go on the sternum. If you're pressing below it, the only thing you're compressing is their intestines, which is not gonna help anyone

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    Wouldn't that break the xyphoid process? Below that is where you Heimlich. Above, on the strong center bone, is where you do chest compression. Also, as a haver of boobs, I can vouch that they will have enough space between them when she's flat on her back and braless that you can put your locked fists between them on that bone and shove the heel of your hand towards the floor.

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