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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can playing a game of cards that you can drop in a second be reasonably said to not be "engaged to wait"? I mean, they were literally waiting with cards in their hands for something to happen but nothing did. It's not like they had left the premises, were unreasonably distracted or negligent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you misunderstood.

"Engaged to wait" simply means that you aren't free to leave and must be paid. If you're required to be at work, you need to be paid - even if you're killing time playing cards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see, but the other commenter didn't say that anybody left, that they were only playing cards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. I'm arguing that denying their pay is illegal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're agreeing with me.

I'm saying it's illegal to deny them their pay because they were required to be at work. "Engaged to wait" basically means "Having nothing to do, but still on the clock."

If they showed up to work 20 minutes early to play cards or we're playing cards during their lunch break, then they'd be "waiting to be engaged" which wouldn't require payment because they're free to leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't think I was disagreeing, I only wasn't sure what you meant but I think I get it now.