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I would like to see how the Digital Euro works in regards to privacy laws. If all transactions are traceable I would see this as potentially a dangerous move for EU citizens, whilst at the moment we may trust our governments to a degree we also see a substantial move towards Fascism all over the continent.
I think it is supposed to be untracable in the same way cash is. It's even supposed to be usable offline.
Whether or not they will accomplish this is yet to be seen.
being a pessimist here for a second:
once this reaches a more mature stage, there will be somebody claiming it would be used when selling drugs or other illegal activities and those privacy concerns will go out the window :/
I think that's not that pessimistic.
I don't expect there to be good privacy straight from the start, no matter what they say right now.
That would be nice and eliminate my main fear in regards to this. Do you have any info on how that is supposed to work?
Nothing is decided yet, according to their website:
They just have announced their plans, but its still many years away
Then why do they want it?
There is a whole website to explain that. Specifically, there is a PDF under the "Why might we need a digital euro?" section, but also this interview says similar things.
If you want something like that, take a look at GNU Taler. https://www.taler.net
That doesn't make it more privately friendly. After all, you need a way to attest that the payment has actually happened, and that the money was valid, which is much harder (or impossible) to do in a privacy-guaranteeing way without a central authority (like servers from the ECB).
Even if all states in the EU are friendly and don't use our data for evil things, or block us from paying due to invalid reasons, a payment system without privacy by design is still not ok. By implementing such a payment system, the EU supports similar systems being used in suppressive governments, as those can then use the EU doing the same as justification. And, of course, there's no guarantee that the whole EU would stay 100% friendly.
If you want something like that, take a look at GNU Taler. https://www.taler.net
That doesn't make it more privately friendly. After all, you need a way to attest that the payment has actually happened, and that the money was valid, which is much harder (or impossible) to do in a privacy-guaranteeing way without a central authority (like servers from the ECB).
Even if all states in the EU are friendly and don't use our data for evil things, or block us from paying due to invalid reasons, a payment system without privacy by design is still not ok. By implementing such a payment system, the EU supports similar systems being used in suppressive governments, as those can then use the EU doing the same as justification. And, of course, there's no guarantee that the whole EU would stay 100% friendly.