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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. A Nazi is well defined.

Not really. It’s an ideology, and ideologies always have various layers, variants, intensities and whatnot. If someone has a race bias are they automatically a Nazi? If someone is in a position to kill a jew but doesn’t do it, are they automatically not a Nazi? Putin says Ukraine is controlled by Nazis. The entire US population is pretty much split on whether “certain politicians” are Nazi or not.

As much as I’d like it to be true, it’s not something objective enough that most people can agree on a single definition.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy is doing a fucking Nazi salute. There are people who literally wave the fucking Nazi flag. People will tattoo the Nazi swastika on their bodies and literally self identify as a Nazi. It isn't that complex holy fuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And those people you listed are definitely Nazis. But are people who don’t do that stuff definitely not Nazis? There’s a huge gray area.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There’s a huge gray area.

It does not follow from this that the existence of a gray area means that obvious nazis should not be opposed vigorously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I never disagreed with that. If someone openly identifies as a nazi they deserve anything that's coming their way. My gripe with your initial comment was that you said this couldn't lead to a slippery slope because "a Nazi is well defined", when it's not. If we stop at people who are 100% confirmed nazis I'm all in, the thing that person was mentioning is how we should be wary of applying the same logic to people who could be nazis, because it's all downhill from there.