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Yes.
Gentle reminder to try to assume best intention of others and provide nuance where appropriate. If by 'conservative/right wing' this person means they're all about what these things have morphed into lately in the US (transphobia, homophobia, and otherwise thinly-veiled hateful notions), then I completely agree. Fascists aren't welcome here. Nazis aren't welcome here. Beehaw is explicitly intolerant of the intolerant. But there can be honest perspectives that fall 'to the right' of the liberal perspective that can and should deserve consideration (they just seem to be rare these days, as political discourse has become so polarized).
No, there are communities and instances dedicated for them.
Edit: speaking in a general sense, "conservative" is a broad term.
Dumb answer. I don't care. We shouldn't tolerate oppression, and we shouldn't burden ourselves with the need to support them or equivocate. If they want their own communities, they can support that completely on their own (including research on whether they can run their own shit and how) without our help. It's really fucking easy to just say "nah" and let them figure out whether to trust that answer or not. You're choosing to shoot yourself (and me, and everyone else) in the foot. How about just don't.
I think what Dankenstein meant was that there are already today servers dedicated to right wingers (we block them but they exist), not that we should help them or something like that.
Or at least - I think that's a good faith interpretation.
That's okay. We don't have to help them set them up, or find them, or even know they exist. Why is everyone so obsessed with giving reactionaries the IT help they need to setup and grow communities of hate? Doesn't make any sense at all, TBH.
You go low, we...help you go low.
Again - we're not helping them. Why do you think we're helping them? I don't understand where you got that from - genuinely trying to understand..
Again, why would we help reactionaries discover communities they can become a part of where they are welcomed? Why would we tolerate their existence and their growth? That's absolutely silly. I don't "agree with you", but here's how you can find communities which do, so you can organize with them to crush me and the people I love. Dumb shit.
@straycatfrump - you are arguing against a point that Lionir is not making. Please assume good faith when engaging with users on Beehaw. Our one rule is: Be(e) Nice.
I'm saying it's dumb to give the kind of answers people are giving in this post. We should've just said "yes, reactionaries are unwelcome" and moved on. It's not "nice" to help them organize to murder me, so I take exception to you characterizing only MY participation as not being nice.
Many conservatives want to murder me too, but that's not my takeaway from this thread. Nor are all conservative opinions necessarily hateful - the modern Republican party in the United States has certainly has chosen to center hate, but ideas on how large a government should be, for example, are not necessarily rooted in hate.
I won't take away your right to point out that the modern right wing party in the US is intolerant and therefore deserving of scorn, but we do need you to assume good faith of other users on Beehaw, especially when considering we are a global website. Feel free to ask questions to get them to show that they are acting in bad faith or report comments which you think are hiding malice.