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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Do you guys think linux will ever win over time? I see hate towards ubuntu every now and then but I think of it as the most "idiot-proof" distro (maybe I'm wrong)

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No. Something with no marketing never beats something with billions of dollars in marketing and partnerships.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It’s not about marketing, it’s about trying to turn on surround sound, almost blowing up my speakers with static, and reading through pulse audio or Alsa configs for hours to do what an AppleTV just does innately.

    Linux, and especially desktop linux, is a collection of disparate technologies by different groups with different priorities and it will never have a cohesive vision or responsive support.

    I’ve had a Linux desktop on and off for over 20 years and it’s always some bullshit or another.

    It’s always the year of Linux on the desktop if you’re a masochist.

    Signed: a masochist.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I started using Ubuntu partly because all that just works

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    The distro that almost blew up my speakers(and my eardrums) just happened to be Ubuntu! Small world!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Hell, that would have been the case 10 years ago. Now that Windows is 'the default' for almost everybody, I can never see Linux taking that crown even if Windows never advertised again.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows was the default for almost everybody 10 years ago too.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    You're definitely right about that, I tend to forgot how recent 10 years ago was...

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Do you guys think linux will ever win over time?

    Depends on what you mean by "win". Linux dominates everywhere except for desktops.

    Will we win on desktops, too? Who knows. If it does happen, it probably won't be anytime soon.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I think Ubuntu and some other Linux distros are arguably more idiot proof than Windows, especially if used by a child with no former experience with anything. The issue of course, is that people just expect every piece of software to work out of the box, and much software that gets advertised to people, including games, targets Windows. Yes, most stuff works with compatibility layers now and more software is targeting Linux as well. However as soon as a person encounters a piece of software where something doesn't just work they will probably ditch the OS, not look for fixes or an alternative, especially for something like a game where there is FOMO attached.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Kids and elders in my family get Linux. It's especially easy to sell it to them too, since:

    1. They only need email, office suite, browser, games
    2. They don't want to buy windows
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Well, Ubuntu pioneered this thing! Fortunately it was short lived and you could opt out.

    A good and user-friendly distro nevertheless. Who knows if it will ever "win" on the desktop, but I am sure the more mainstream it becomes, the more hate it will get!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I think the newer immutable distros will become the more mainstream option.

    In practice it behaves more like a phone where you use sandboxed apps and the base system cannot be modded.

    However on immutable distros you can make changes to the system but only with a specific method. This is how the Steam Deck is setup and I can see it working very well for the average user.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    I think if somehow office 365 got working easily on linux there will be a decent sized shift