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[–] [S] 20 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Liberal in the US seems to mean something different than anywhere else. Most classifications don't line up that way, though the far right extremism seems to be aligning across countries since 2016.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago

    Look mate, if you go check the definition of "Liberalism" in Wikipedia it's literally self contradictory.

    For example, the whole Private Property Rights shit collides with the Freedom part - give people the right to own Land and to do whatever they want with their Land (which includes keeping other people out of it or from using it) and that lowers Freedom for everybody else who now can't access that Land.

    Ditto for other shared resources - if somebody owns them, others can't use them.

    Ownership of those for which "no more of it is being made" (most notably Land) is probably the keystone of inequality, not just modern day but all the way back to the time when Monarchs took ownership of the Commons.

    Liberalism is like the Bible - there's something in there for everybody but the whole thing is a self-contradictory fable promising people that they too will one day be in bliss (one promises Heaven, the other promises the possibility of becoming Rich) as long as they keep being obedient sheep.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    Yes, but that would make this make even less sense. The US sometimes uses liberal as a stand in for left-leaning. The more common definition is against regulation, so sometimes socially liberal, but also, and more importantly market liberal (think Argentina's president for an extreme example). So this is very us liberal coded, just with goals far exceeding what most us "liberal" politicians currently try to achieve.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

    There are many definitions of the word "liberal". Which one are you using?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    The political ones, pick any used commonly in the US and they won't match up with their use in other countries.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    I've lived many years in 3 different countries in Europe.

    In none of them were Liberal politicians making policies in accordance with the ideas listed in your post.

    Worse, the more openly "Liberal" the party the harder they defended the very opposite of most of what's there.

    I literally do not know of a single "Liberal" party anywhere in the West which does not practice pretty much the opposite of that - they're all pro-privatisation, pro-deregulation and more broadly their policies generally increase the Power of Money whilst decreasing the Power of the entities controlled by the Democratically Elected representatives of the citizens (i.e. the State, which is controlled by the elected representatives of citizens).

    In practice every single on of them has policies which de facto reduce the powers controled by voting - which is equal(-ish) for everybody - and increase the powers controlled by Money and Asset Ownership - which is spectacularly unequal, with some having literally billions of times more power than others - or in other words, to replace Democracy with Oligarchy.

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