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Optimists of Lemmy, what gives you hope about the future? (lemmy.ca)
submitted 9 hours ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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I obviously have none, so I'd like to see if I can mooch off of you lol.

Please don't leave any pessimistic top level comments. Or do, I'm not your mom ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ.

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[โ€“] 2 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Would you say most of your material needs are met now? I'm somewhat behind on mine, and freedom from the constant struggle of not quite meeting them sounds (and is) too good to be true. I'm not against offloading that burden to a machine in principle or out of an attachment to want itself, I'm against it because that machine has been well-proven not to be acting in our best interests or capable of shouldering that burden even if its operators would ever allow it

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    My material needs are certainly met. My family will likely never buy a home but I've never wanted to so that's no loss for me. We have food, water, shelter and access to education for our children (for all the good that will do them).

    I have had times in my life where my material needs were very far from being met. Either as a result of lack of funds or as a result of being located somewhere hostile to those needs. Though the fear of a post scarcity economy has been one I've had since I was a child (ironically the most materially unstable portion of my life) so this has been a consistent character trait, whether or not I could articulate it.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 hour ago (2 children)

    I didn't mean it as a callout or gotcha, just seemed relevant to the potential appeal of having them met by a machine. I certainly wouldn't feel lost or directionless in that scenario, there's so much I want to do but can't now. Liberation from the chop wood/carry water processes that occupy more time than I've got would unlock so much potential

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 32 minutes ago (1 child)

    I notice when the topic of a post-scarcity/post-work environment comes up the reactions tend to be roughly sortable into 2 camps. People with my perspective and people who would be excited about this. It's interesting that you mention liberation from chop wood/carry water because that actually sounds rather lovely, and that's coming from someone that did manual/industrial labor for the first half of their working life.

    I wonder what the psychology of that is? Why some people would find the absence of toil freeing and others would find it dreadful.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 22 minutes ago*

    You're more than welcome to come pitch in. I feel like it has a lot to do with how someone's currently handling their burdens. If you're thriving now, fundamental change is a threat. If you're struggling, there's room to see it as salvation. I think it sounds lovely to be warm and have enough to eat, and am quite confident I could find another goal should those suddenly be achieved. Maybe it's just the grass being greener as usual :p

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