In the last week I have seen solar punk go down and aussie.zone owner talk about stepping away.

I've not seen two places down at once that has made it to my feed in the last 3 years.

Is the self hosting aspect of lemmy a detriment to the entire environment? Admins getting burnt out or the costs becoming too high is absolutely an issue.

I know this is kind of rambling but what would happen to Lemmy if the major hosters all went down, and we all spun up our own personal services?

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[–] 7 points 6 hours ago* (6 children)

I think the fedi project that it most interesting in this regard is Holos, where your fedi server runs on your device. Having an app that runs on your phone that “just works” is probably the best solution long-term, and it feels like Holos has a reasonable chance of achieving it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago

    Ooh, this looks fantastic. My first thought was "doesn't this just move all the costs to the relay?" But the relay has a 30-day retention limit, so that'd keep storage costs well under control there.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    That seems super interesting, I wonder though what it would do to data costs on a phone though

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Holos is designed to be data-efficient. Text activities are tiny (a few KB). Media (images, videos) are loaded on demand and cached. The relay handles delivery fan-out to your followers, so your device doesn't need to contact each one individually.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (2 children)

    So there’s a central failure point…

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago (1 child)

    Do you mean each person's relay? Isn't that the case for each instance as well?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    I didn’t read the link but the text said “the person’s device doesn’t need to handle” the fan out, which means there’s a server somewhere. If it’s designed to avoid the pitfalls of self hosting then it’s centralized server tech.

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