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My GF uses AI (lemmy.zip)
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Hi everyone. I'm a senior Computer Engineering student and my girlfriend is a senior Mechanical Engineering student.

She is caring, cute, clever and really thoughtful. I love everything about her. But the one thing that always bugs me out is the amount of AI she uses.

When we met 2 years ago the first topic we talked about was about AI and ever since that day I always mentioned her the advancements and dangers of AI. I said how there can't be ethical AI and any use of it is harmful.

She agrees with me every time and says she will decrease her usage but at the end she uses it still. Projects, reports, homeworks all go through the LLM. She shows me her work and I can't congratulate her without forcing myself because I know it's AI.

She has diagnosed ADHD and I think this might be one of the reasons but I still don't understand. She sometimes spends hours working. If she had spent that time with pen and paper she could've reached the same conclusions she did with AI but with more understanding of her work.

I don't want to upset her but also seeing someone this close to me do this is saddening to me. What should I do? Should I just ignore it?

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[–] -3 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

You’re making a legitimate argument, but an argument isn’t a fact. he can say to his gf til he’s blue in the face that she’s being unethical, but he hasn’t demonstrated (nor can he really beyond theoretical hand waving) who is actually harmed by her use of AI. That isn’t to say there aren’t real harms that can happen and do happen, but it’s a bit ridiculous to tell someone who’s using an LLM to summarize an email that they’re responsible for the downfall of society. Get a grip

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (7 children)

    It is a fact that LLMs took the teeth away from copy left licenses.

    You can now legally make a proprietary version of a copyleft licensed work by having an llm gobble it up and regurgitate it.

    As someone who has donated money to, daily drives, and has even written software under a copyleft license? Yes that tangibly hurt me. It undermined my work, and others work I helped pay for, and even just work I use for free, and gave businesses a legal pathway to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish said software.

    Don't believe me? Some asshole who thinks he's doing the lords work already started doing it to GIMP. Even if its open source, its still stealing the spotlight and funding from the actual FLOSS solutions worth using.

    Taking the teeth away from a license many rely on isn't an intangible harm, its a very real problem. We used to be able to legally threaten companies into playing nice, that needs to be brought back.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 hours ago* (6 children)

    …ok, so are you saying that this guy should start talking about copyleft licenses and that will resolve his relationship dispute? Because I’m saying he should accept that she has a different opinion and that he may even be wrong since she’s demonstrably not using it unethically (assuming she’s not trying to LLM-wash some open source software), I’m not really sure how what you mentioned is a relevant harm that would change his gf’s opinion?

    ETA: To give you a better idea what I’m talking about, let’s say that the gf really just ethically thinks playing video games is a massive waste of time, and she raises that concern. And that he thinks that playing video games is a social outlet so that he can spend time with friends from high school, and have a fun time, and that the time he spends with it is in balance with the rest of his priorities and life.

    The GF has a valid opinion about video games, but she’s not going to win any arguments with someone who is enjoying their usage in a balanced way with random ideological arguments, and moreover, she needs to either accept that this is something he enjoys to do in the balance of his life, and/or that she gasp may be wrong and/or leave the relationship if it’s really that big of a deal, but it would seem like she’s a bit of a nutter if she does that, to me at least.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago* (5 children)

    You can say the same about any creative commons media they may have swallowed. There are copyleft forms of licenses for all creations in all domains. By using LLM generated content, you're using that training data.

    Keep backpeddling all you want, I demonstrated one of tbe many ways that LLMs create inherit and tangible harm as asked.

    As for this guys girlfriend? I'll refer to my first comment. (Admittedly edited a coupla mins after its original posting, so ya nights missed it):

    That being said, yeah that's rough and you're probably gonna have to just accept it if a coupla conversations aren't doing it, because trying to 'fix' your partners like they're a project is both unhealthy and condescending.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

    I wasn’t asking for an abstract concept of how LLMs can cause ethical harms, I was asking how this person ever made the case that his GF’s particular use of AI was causing ethical harm. As I said in my last comment, responding with esoteric random arguments (arguments, not facts, I still remember when ‘theft’ required actually having to lose property) is not how you resolve a dispute in a relationship or a difference of opinion. I’m not backpedaling, you just demonstrated exactly what OP is doing and why it isn’t relevant to the situation.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

    There are copyleft forms of licenses for all creations in all domains. By using LLM generated content, you're using that training data.

    If you create with an LLM you're relicensing work under an incompatible license.

    Even if you do release under a copy left license, which one do you use? Many of them are incompatible. No matter what your breaking someones terms (or you would if AI companies wherent allowed to get away with murder.)

    Again, as someone with publicly released works under copy-left licenses, that is doing anyone who's contributed to such works, in effort or donation, a tangible disservice.

    Unless your work is so fucking innately important as to be above that issue, like improving quality of life for someone who's disabled, or curing some horrible disease, I don't wanna fucking hear it. Using LLM's to create is unethical.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    I don’t know what you’re talking about anymore, I’m sorry. You even quoted yourself, to demonstrate how much I think you’re just talking to yourself at this point.

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