ICE official, who was sleeping on man’s lawn and appeared ‘intoxicated’, faces felony charges, California police say

A 72-year-old man shot an off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official in California early on Friday morning after the “intoxicated and agitated” official assaulted him and his daughter on their property, local authorities allege.

The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo, Fresno police said.

It was not immediately clear for how Gonzalez had been with ICE and what exactly he did for ICE. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees ICE, referred all questions about Gonzalez to Fresno police.

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  • [–] 101 points 4 days ago (22 children)

    He's not a cop. He's got some self control, restraint and a general unwillingness to commit murder.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (15 children)

    True, but ICE agents are barely human anyway, so I say fuck em.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 days ago (14 children)

    They're human. They represent the worst of humanity, but dehumanizing is their game, and it's best not to play it.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 days ago* (8 children)

    Mmm nope, gonna have to disagree. Your statement is a demonstration of the paradox of tolerance in action.

    Any ICE agent, at any time, can choose to no longer be an ICE agent. The people that ICEatzgruppen are targeting and repressing and brutalizing and deporting and killing cannot choose to not be targeted.

    Fascists should be scared for their lives, always. The fact that they aren’t anymore, and haven’t been for at least a decade now, is a big part of how we got here.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    I'm not saying they're good people. They're the worst of us, but they aren't doing anything humans aren't capable of doing. Don't trust them, but keep an eye on your own limits, too, as you don't want to follow their lead.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago* (3 children)

    I saw someone else say they think of it as "pest control" and I agree with every fiber of my being.

    I don't agree with your statements at all. It's not a slippery slope to want to protect your fellow citizens from a modern Nazi SS

    ETA: I bet others back in the 1930s Germany were saying/thinking the exact same as you are right now. And I'd tell them to fuck all the way off because of it.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Exactly. Intolerance can't be tolerated.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    I've been counselled to make sure if you ever have to shoot someone that you empty the clip into them, as it implies you were pannicked , in fear for your life, and and not in control of the situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (2 children)

    If the person counselling you knew what they were talking about they wouldn't call a magazine a "clip".

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    oh no, did I get the term wrong. So.. I'm not a gun guy and am unlikely to become one. I dont really care what the proper term is. If you want to shake your head that I'm not getting your terminology correct then you're as bad as the trekkies who pshaw people and say, "theres not even a warp core conduit going throygh that part of the ship". I just dont care.

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