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[–] 74 points 10 hours ago (17 children)

I swear some women are as clueless about men as men are about women. I'm sure huge amount of this is because schools insist that sexed is gender separated.

Why is wearing glasses and pyjamas supposed to be a turn-off?

You know when women go on about how they have to have a different dress for every party, it is literally only women the care. Men aren't going to even notice if you're wearing the same thing two dates in a row. The catty comments come from other women. As a man I don't have nice clothes, I just have clothes. If we're going on a date I'm just going to be wearing clothes, I don't have special items that I only wear on a date so I am really not going to mind if you don't either.

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  • [–] 17 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    I had an ex at one time who would get mad that I didn't check out other women.

    Like, she would assume I was doing it, but then when she realized I wasn't it would turn into a fight about how I'm not and every guy does.

    When I'm in a relationship I really don't have eyes for anyone else. The need to find someone just kinda turns off.

    She would also get mad and start a fight whenever I said she looked good without makeup, because I was a liar.

    After that relationship, self confidence became a huge checkbox I reviewed before entering any possible relationship.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    I hate makeup.... i have told my wife for over a decade that I dont care for it and it looks worse in my opinion. She has mostly stopped wearing it or will do a small amount for big parties and thats it. She tells me to this day she doesnt believe me though and all I can say is that's super sad.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    Dude no shade. But also not all dudes are the same.

    For example, I care what a girl wears. I don't care if she wears it many times, but I care if she dresses nicely and works on looking nice. Also I have multiple suits, different clothes for sports, work, camping etc.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    I'm kind of in between you two… I find people attractive when they appear to be comfortable in their own skin. If that's in a hoodie and ripped jeans and combat boots, hell yeah. If she's a "girly girl" and you can tell she just really genuinely enjoys dolling up and having everything look on point, also hell yeah.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    It could be an “empowerment” issue.

    Dresses and fancy preparation are empowering. They show that this person manages their life well and is successful. That of course all sounds positive. Only problem is, to someone struggling with that issue, it can be intimidating.

    I struggle to find a good way to express this, but guys like myself since school have grappled with a perception that women “have more social power than them”. Even if the guy isn’t a total loser with a rented home that consists of a TV and a pillow, girls are viewed as a pedestal-standing respected social icon by comparison. That’s definitely not universally actually true, but under young hormones it seems that way.

    Hence why pajamas, glasses, or to extend further: VTuber streamers that joke about failing basic life skills, or not showering that week, are often a successful endeavor. They show someone more humanized, disempowered and flawed. Question is whether a woman is okay with accepting a bit of that debasement to put someone at ease.

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