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Bro do I have bad news to tell them about the Russian government's viewpoint on LGBT people (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 47 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Then just post a Z instead of putting it on a trans flag when they just made trans care illegal. Just as cringe, or possibly marginally more cringe, as making a trans American flag

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I think their point is that it's a Z and not the Russian tricolor (not sure how you'd make the latter a rainbow anyway), i.e. an endorsement of the campaign specifically and not the state generally.

    I still think OOP is goofy because neither the Russians nor the Ukronazis are fighting to protect or advance trans rights, but I don't think it's exactly as bad as using the flag of a queer-phobic state, be it Russia, Ukraine, or America.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    So it would be more like putting trans colors on a US challenge coin about attacking an even worse country, still pretty odd

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Russia has risen to a sacred fight to protect its sovereignty and security. We will always support the decisions of President Putin and the Russian leadership … and we will be together in the fight against imperialism.

    -Kim Jong Un

    The US has never been anti-imperialist. What is your westoid obsession with projecting your own sins on your enemies?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If we just imagined there was a country (or section of a country) that the US taking over would actually make things better for . . . sure? But there hasn't been one of those since 1945, and even then the US made sure to minimize the good it did by giving amnesty to heinous war criminals.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So yeah that's a good example, I could use the logo from like a US WWII regiment to make fun of some Nazis they killed, but I wouldn't put like black nationalist colors or LGBT colors on the logo when it was whites-only and discharged gay people

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That's a bit of a contortion since "Z" is not a regiment. Using some sort of black liberationist symbol in conjunction with a more general symbol from the US attack on the Nazis seems, well, a little odd since it was a segregated military as you say, but nonetheless had black soldiers triumphing over Nazis who would have them enslaved or murdered. I suppose Azov isn't likely being all that nice to trans people, but I've seen zero reporting on that topic.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    The American Flag is the flag of a fascist imperialist power. It's a Nazi flag. No it's not "just as cringe". What "Z" and the anti-imperialist multipolar struggle represents is not "just as bad" as fucking AMERICA.

    I thought this place was finally past the both sides bullshit, but it seems continually mired here.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    Russia is run by America's goon squad and aren't anti-imperialist, they're just anti the biggest empire, sure the balance of power says to fight the biggest and worst one but that doesn't make the type of shit in the OP any less stupid. Iran is far better than either of those countries and they have an even more justified and important struggle against the US but would you slap them on a rainbow flag? If fuckin like, Uganda or Saudi started blocking oil to America you could praise that without making it seem like they're compatible with gay and trans rights.

    It being marginally more cringe isn't because Russia has marginally worse effects on the world, it absolutely doesn't, it's marginally more cringe because it's more opposed specifically to freedom of gender expression and sexuality.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    Speaking before the meeting, Kim said: “Russia has risen to a sacred fight to protect its sovereignty and security. We will always support the decisions of President Putin and the Russian leadership … and we will be together in the fight against imperialism.”

    Kim Jong Un, who knows better than you what is and what is not imperialism.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Russia serves America? Russia is the main force on Earth combatting America. Look to comrade KJU, you are out of line and making a common chauvinist error of both sidesism

    "Z" specifically symbolized a struggle against NATO. It doesn't represent the nation of Russia. Z is a good and based symbol.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Russia serves America?

    This makes it seem like you don't know what I mean but I think you do know what I mean

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think you're just yet another westerner who can't get on the correct side of the line

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