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[–] 6 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

In general the US is able to call elections within a day. I think there are a variety of factors that make it seem like it takes longer than other places though. The US has arguably 6+ time zones, so voting may end in one place hours after another place has already counted the votes. As you mentioned, in the US there's a variable number of voters being covered be polling stations and as of late there's been several efforts to exacerbate that problem. We also have a rule that if you're in line you get to vote. There have been times where lines are hours long, and that obviously can cause delays if you have a lot of people still in line even though polling has technically closed. Additionally, mail in ballots are often allowed to be posted the day of the election, so your vote might not be counted until several days after the election.

There are of course some races that are very close and recounts are requested, but really we're not as disorganized as the republicans would like people to believe. The "official" tally is delayed in order to ensure that people have time to question the process if needed, but that's not a bug, it's a feature of the system. People can definitely disagree with the system, but the Republicans acting like the delay is a problem is explicitly meant to undermine credibility for no reason among people who just don't understand how it works.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 hours ago* (3 children)

    Most votes in the USA are counted nearly immediately. By the end of the evening, we have a pretty clear picture of the in-person votes.

    The issue is the mail-in votes. Some states end their mail-on votes a week or so before Election Day, so they are all in. Other states, like California, allow mail-ins to be posted on Election Day, which means they might not arrive to be counted for a week, holding up the process.

    I'm not big on most of these "reforms" to the voting process that MAGA wants, I understand what their true agenda is, but it makes sense to demand that the mail-in votes arrive by Election Day. That's a sensible change that would help the entire situation, and keep MAGA loudmouths quiet. It's not a good system when we're still waiting on a result a week after the election, especially when we're mostly waiting on a giant state like California, while we have to listen to MAGAs torture the world with their incessant whining.

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  • Yea, I agree that we know almost immediately, I was just explaining the reason it might not seem that way. Hearing that polls closed in Florida only to know that other place have hours left can be confusing if people don't understand how many time zones are involved. It makes people think that some states are taking the extra time to mess with votes when in reality they are just in a different time zone.

    The delay is not exclusively with mail in votes though. Certification does not happen immediately and this varies by location. Here's a list of the rules: https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/election-certification-deadlines

    I don't think anything will keep maga quiet and attempting to do anything to appease them will just result in them moving the goalposts and then once they hit a final barrier they will claim they reason you're unwilling this time is because this is where the stealing is really happening. It's a losing battle and we shouldn't play.

    I don't think voting by mail should mean they have less time or less knowledge than anyone else in their area. If something scandalous happens the day before the election you have essentially robbed them of legally being able to vote with that information. Those who vote early are exercising their right, but were likely not forced to do so, so they are at fault if they regret it later. Obviously you have to make concessions for time zones etc, but I disagree that they should have less time than their fellow constituents. I know places do things differently, but that's my personal opinion. I think realistically these mail in votes are not holding much up, especially since the effects of the elections are months out, and a lot of it really is the certification process that varies.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

    That's a reasonable change. I definitely would encourage a reform of the voting district system, though. There is no reason for districts to exist or matter nowadays and they can be replaced by a fairly simple set of rules regarding how far polling places can be away from voters and how many there must be per X voters in the area.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 minutes ago

    Why does it matter really if the results are in before November ends when they have all of December to prepare for an office they enter in January. In person voting from Nov 1st-30th should be fine. End the mail ins by the 15th or something and there shouldn't be an issue.

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