h0tbeef comments on I don't fucking *want* "infinite personalized music", I want music conceptualized, created, and played by human beings.

[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s a bit pessimistic.

The average person and the people below are only 50% of all people. There’s a lot of us who absolutely hate and avoid this slop shit.

Making music has never been super lucrative for the average musician, and the era of megastars was ultimately a small blip in this history of music.

I’m a musician myself, but I don’t do it for the money, I do it because I find it fun and rewarding. I’d imagine most musicians feel the way I do (I know many musicians, even a few with smaller record contracts, and none of them can live just off of the money that make from music. They still make the music tho, because it isn’t about the money.

The most popular artists are by nature lowest common denominator, many of them intentionally so, because those people care most about the money, so they make the safest music, blurring the lines of art and business.

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[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know. I would say in my social circle there are 10 AI fanatics per every person strongly against LLMs. 20-30 per person if we include normies who just use LLMs casually and don't think about it.

And saying fanatics I genuinely mean believers that generate massive amounts of code, text, images, websites and other slop with LLMs on daily basis and brag how it skyrocketed their productivity and it's the best thing ever.

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[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

In that case I think you might be an outlier

I have only anecdotal evidence to offer, but it is the opposite of your annecdotal experience. I have two large friend groups in two different locations.

In one of these groups there are zero AI fanatics, and about 2 or 3 who use it casually without thinking about it. This group is about 30-40 people.

In the other group I’m in has no one who uses it casually, but there are 2 AI fanatics (who also both work in the AI industry). This group is closer to 20 people total.

At my work there are about 30 employees, one of whom was a former fanatic, but is now just a casual user after realizing he was being lied to about AIs capabilities.

I’m just about middle aged tho, so I suppose there would likely be different saturation levels in different age groups.

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[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 1 point 3 weeks ago

I’m just about middle aged tho, so I suppose there would likely be different saturation levels in different age groups.

Definitely possible, my social group is college and adjacent, mainly liberal arts and computer science students and occasionally staff. Perhaps that's why I see so many AI people.

And thanks for sharing, it's always interesting to peek how different life outside of your bubble can be in ways you can't even imagine.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

ok... well this is lower common denominator.

There’s a lot of us who absolutely hate and avoid this slop shit.

There's a lot of people who have the ability to have opinions and share them on the internet. There are shitloads more mute idiots , and not everyone who doesn't care about what their music is from is an idiot, so they are better than the "average" person, but they still indulge in this kind of crap.

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[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I don’t think you understand what “lowest common denominator” means

Anyone who claims to enjoy music while simultaneously listening to AI slop bullshit is actually an idiot, and they are not better than the “average” person.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That's not the idea. The idea is "average people and lower don't care about music, so they put on any slop anyway. Also, people have distinct things they are good and bad at. You might have someone that's smart in a specific field, but because they are below average in their importance of music, they also won't give a shit either."

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