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Entry #1: the entire .ml user base (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I am not confusing it, the very concept of "authoritarianism" is suspect, both in the way you define it and in the coloquial sense.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    Fine. Let's not call it authoritarianism. Let's call it aboritarianism,

    Same three criteria, different word. Happy?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Not really. You're making a rather pseudoscientific analysis of personalities to arbitrarily define them as "spooky word." What's the material base of "aboritarianism?" What's the practical application of categorizing people like this? It isn't a mental disorder, and it isn't genetic, and is very loose and arbitrary.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Common personality traits and similar behaviors dictated by said traits.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    There is no such thing as "authoritarian personality disorder" or anything of the sort. Trying to grasp at straws to find a connection between these things isn't science, it's concocting a strawman by which to hurl at people you want to be seen by others as having the characteristics of the strawman.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    No there is not. There is, however, a common series of behaviors, thought processes, and resulting social tendencies.

    It's worth understanding those. It helps explain people's behavior.

    Again, if you had the intellectual curiosity to read, like I did with your critique of Arendt, then you'd probably understand it. But as I said before, it's hard to make someone understand something they have a vested interest in not understanding.

    Guess I can't expect much from a tankie.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    I did engage with your work. Again, it's pseudoscience.

    high degree of submission to established authorities

    This is arbitrary. "High degree" isn't defined, and "submission" can be confused with agreement. If I agree with someone, or support their actions, that doesn't say anything about an underlying personality type.

    aggressive defense of said authorities

    "Aggressive" is doing heavy lifting here. Say I support the Palestinian movement, and I go to great lengths to defend their positions and actions. This, again, is not an underlying personality trait, it isn't based on genetics, it's just strongly supporting the liberation of a group of people and those who are leading that movement, the "established authorities." It's called having principles.

    highly motivated by conventionalism

    I'm a communist, much of my life is spent organizing directly against the established rules, traditions, and expectations of the society I live in. I support democratic centralism as a strategic tool, which is highly unconventional for how I was raised and where I live. Communism in general is a growing but fringe movement in the west.

    None of this applies to me, but you decided to fit me into a box based on pure pseudoscience. None of what you said is useful, it does not predict behavior, it's little more then phrenology, even less useful than MBTI.

    Further, you never established where the material base of this supposed personality type is. Genetics? Upbringing? Without a consistent base, then we cannot actually use it to predict anything. It's simply correlation if anything.

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