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[–] 43 points 3 days ago (37 children)

what's... what's going on here?

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  • [–] 56 points 3 days ago (26 children)
  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    but what is the source of the "white guy" controversy? where are people reading about this new cat and commenting on the race and gender of the discoverer?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago

    Some people online have started to either seriously or jokingly equate headlines saying "Scientists discovered" with "white guys found out something the natives have known about for years"

    This is a specific type of callout post with justifiable ire about that, but to the tone of "for fucks sake not all scientists are white guys. Behold; the scientist who discovered the new cat."

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (20 children)

    I feel like this isn't about a cat

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (19 children)

    People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy. She's a Bolivian biologist who is decidedly not a white guy.

    Just your average casual sexism weaving it's way through social media as usual.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy.

    where?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago* (9 children)

    I’m answering what the OG post is talking about. I can dig up examples just as well as you can, but I’m not at my desk at the moment.

    The OP says “this site” and it looks like maybe Tumblr?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    So why is tumblr's issue our problem?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    If you didn’t assume she was a white guy, then this isn’t targeting you. You can put your pitchfork down.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Has anyone in this community, or on Lemmy or in the fediverse in general, been doing that? Else what's the relevance to us?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago*

    That's the problem with screenshots of other social media platforms; we don't have any of the buildup or history leading up to this. I'm completely out of the loop on this entire thing. It's like seeing a 9 layer meme that builds on all the other memes posted this week without context

    Imagine seeing a post making fun of lämps and you're just like… what about lamps? They're bright?

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  • [+] -8 points 3 days ago* (4 children)

    I can dig up examples just as well as you can, but I’m not at my desk at the moment.

    you should have done that before posting this screenshot out of context. If you're not willing to verify something is true, then don't repost it on social media.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I didn't post the screenshot

    I'm not the OP

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  • [–] -4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    fine. The point stands though, OP should have provided context for this actually being an issue.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    It's really common for people to assume scientists are white men.

    A newly published University of Virginia study has found that about two-thirds of students in a third- through fifth-grade extracurricular astronomy program perceive scientists as white men in labs, mixing chemicals – even as women and people of color increasingly work as scientists.

    The study authors found that these perceptions persist even after elementary school students have been tutored under young female scientists in a program designed to increase understanding of and exposure to astronomy.

    Here's another study on it:

    We found that the scientist image was rated predominantly as White and male, which reflects stereotypes about who pursues scientific careers. The scientist image was also rated more negatively than the other CIs on several characteristics, which may indicate negative biases toward scientists as unsociable, poor communicators, and incompetent authority figures, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    This isn't a made up phenomena just for social media. It really happens.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Oh. Well, if that's the whole story, then this is a pretty weak science meme

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Eh there’s value in calling out sexist assumptions.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    I guess so, it just would be nice to see two people verbally sparring, instead of a one-person narrative about a supposed firestorm

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    It’s an old trope that people assume any scientist is a white man.

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    I saw the article before but didn't read the details, if I had seen the name ending with an -a I would have thought a woman. But that's also probably because I knew a guy named Paolo.

    There is absolutely sexism as well as racism still lurking around in the average person's assumptions. Seems a connected world hasn't (yet) fixed that. Might take more time.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    yes but what's all the "white guy" stuff?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    There’s a running assumption that the scientist that discovered this new cat species is a white guy. It’s not.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    on tumblr especially, there is a belief that science is essentially only a thing white european/american men do and they impose their vision of the world onto everyone, hence "discovering" a new cat species (which was actually known to locals since forever)

    it’s an understandable belief, given the very imperialist and colonialist history of science and the legacy that this leaves behind. but it also completely erases the many contributions to science from other people, like here, where the tilcayo was first formally described by a Bolivian woman, and named after the name local Indigenous people give to the cat

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    There’s a running assumption

    citation needed

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