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[–] 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Understand: I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of intelligence as an emergent property (or I wouldn't have brought it up), and don't think it impossible to achieve AGI. I do contend that this route, of nothing but token input without true correlative context, is a non-starter for such. Making something better and better at predicting what comes next is not going to suddenly create a jump to application in unrelated fields or grant context. Statistical correlation is insufficient to generate actual meaning, no matter how many times you provide feedback on the inference. It doesn't have any actual connection to anything other than text (or hex codes, or other such tokens). If constant hallucinations (demonstrating the lack of any understanding of context) are insufficient to prove this to you, I suppose there is a fundamental difference in the way you understand how LLMs function.

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  • [–] 0 points 14 hours ago* (2 children)

    I understand fairly well how LLMs work, but I don't think we understand the conditions for the emergence of intelligence or thought enough to conclude that "learning to predict what comes next" is not sufficient to create some form of intelligence, that's all. [Edit: if we determine that that turns out to be sufficient I will be surprised] That uncertainty is sufficient to make me agnostic on the subject and that stance does have an effect on my actions, for example I'm never mean to an LLM.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago (1 child)

    I'm only mean to LLMs when they're being used to pose online as a troll. Given that that's the only time I ever interact with an LLM anymore, though...

    Either way, emerging subintelligence or not, they're being used in ways such that they are, all of them, a scourge on the planet and on humans' abilities to think for themselves, and should be eradicated and banned for those reasons alone.

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