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[–] 63 points 5 days ago (10 children)

To be honest men are lonely because men don't show intimacy with other men. Just in writing this I feel the urge to have to clarify I'm not talking sex because the assumption is that men loving men in any way is sexual in nature. I've had so many friends who bottle it all up and are so emotionally broken then treat their girlfriend like an unpaid therapist.

(To be clear I am totally agreeing with you here, you got me thinking is all)

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  • [–] 46 points 5 days ago* (5 children)

    I agree that this is something men lack, and i would add that a lack of third spaces, a tendency towards societal atomization by long work hours, individualist culture, overemphasis of the nuclear family and other consequences of late stage capitalism greatly contribute as well, but when you look at statistics about lonelyness, there is actually very little evidence that men are more likely to be lonely than people of other genders. There is a lonelyness epidemic, but it's not specifically a male one. In fact, there is a bit of evidence that women are more likely to be lonely, even if you correct for compounding variables (like longer life expectency which means there's more old women who have outlived their husband than old men who have outlived their wifes).

    And i've seen articles about the "male lonelyness epidemic" that fully acknowledge all this and then without explanation go on to say that women should show men more affection because they can't do that with each other, while not adressing female lonelyness at all, or why they think that there's an obligation of women to do unpaid emotional support labor for men to fix a societal ill. On supposedly leftist news sites. You can't make this shit up.

    In my opinion, the actual reason that there is this entire male lonelyness epidemic discourse is that in our society, men's feelings are valued more than the feelings of women and people of other genders.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Really good points and I completely agree, loneliness in women is totally ignored when women are not any less lonely. Maybe it is because men are simply so violent in how they act out but I honestly don't know, I'm just spitballing. It's hard to really pin down with patriarchal focus and I'm honestly out of my depth to analyze it much further.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I definitely think that's a large part of it. When men are lonely, they go on killing sprees. Not to mention the discourse of patriarchical news sources.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 days ago

    In fact, there is a bit of evidence that women are more likely to be lonely, even if you correct for compounding variables

    Plenty of single moms who are considered undateable because they're single moms including the incels crying that they can't get Stacies.

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