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[–] Vathsade@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago* (10 children) What if the f30 material is damaged or air gaps left by installer? How resilient and sensitive to flaws in construction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today 11 points 6 hours ago (1 child) I watched a strawbale building demonstration 20 years ago where they torched a stuccoed strawbale structure that had no treatments: the fire reached over 2000°f and when it was cooled, they cut open the stawbales and showed the fire didn't burn the bale more than an inch deep. They really do not burn due to the lack of oxygen. Water on the other hand can rot out a whole wall if it's not sealed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago Same with wood in fires. Large crossections have a great fire rating because the outer layer chars and keeps oxygen away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Then you violated the building code. Regarding fire and arguably more importantly air tightness to prevent condensation and resulting water damage. In attics its mandatory to do a blow out test where you create overpressure and search for air movement and leaks with a smoke machine. Rule of thumb is outer walls wind tight, inside perimeter walls air tight. (Diffusion open) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) and what if the owner added a hole because they felt like it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago* That wouldn't be good for a bunch of reasons. Mainly because the owner is obviously stupid. That being said, I'd argue that Cars aren't safe because if you light a fire under it and wait for a few minutes it goes up in flames. Same reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (4 children) People in construction know what they're doing and in general know what they're talking about. Unfortunately, that excellently constructed home they spent so much effort on will still be sitting there in 5, 15, maybe 50 years from now. And all that time it's definitely not getting all it's proper maintenance, and will slowly be dropping in quality. I doubt these buildings would go up hindenburg style, but after a decade or two of being lived in, fires will not be as easy to put out in a home like this. Source: not a construction worker, but have worked in construction for a few years here and there and have been working with fire for several decades (and working to make fire safe to handle and trying to fireproof a couple garages) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children) And all that time it's definitely not getting all it's proper maintenance That’s a human problem, not a problem with the material and would affect any home built with any material. Also, what kind of maintenance requires you to open up the walls? I doubt these buildings would go up hindenburg style, but after a decade or two of being lived in, fires will not be as easy to put out in a home like this. Anything to support this besides your assumptions? Straw has been in use for a very long time and, generally speaking, this statement doesn’t hold up. https://www.nachi.org/straw-bale-home-basics-history.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children) a good material for a house will survive neglect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago Uh, I don't think so. But maybe you can teach me something. Do you have an example of a structure that is exposed to the elements and doesn't need Amy maintenance? while providing good living xonditions of course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I can only assume you’re trolling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today 11 points 6 hours ago (1 child) I watched a strawbale building demonstration 20 years ago where they torched a stuccoed strawbale structure that had no treatments: the fire reached over 2000°f and when it was cooled, they cut open the stawbales and showed the fire didn't burn the bale more than an inch deep. They really do not burn due to the lack of oxygen. Water on the other hand can rot out a whole wall if it's not sealed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago Same with wood in fires. Large crossections have a great fire rating because the outer layer chars and keeps oxygen away. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago Same with wood in fires. Large crossections have a great fire rating because the outer layer chars and keeps oxygen away. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Then you violated the building code. Regarding fire and arguably more importantly air tightness to prevent condensation and resulting water damage. In attics its mandatory to do a blow out test where you create overpressure and search for air movement and leaks with a smoke machine. Rule of thumb is outer walls wind tight, inside perimeter walls air tight. (Diffusion open) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) and what if the owner added a hole because they felt like it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago* That wouldn't be good for a bunch of reasons. Mainly because the owner is obviously stupid. That being said, I'd argue that Cars aren't safe because if you light a fire under it and wait for a few minutes it goes up in flames. Same reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child) and what if the owner added a hole because they felt like it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago* That wouldn't be good for a bunch of reasons. Mainly because the owner is obviously stupid. That being said, I'd argue that Cars aren't safe because if you light a fire under it and wait for a few minutes it goes up in flames. Same reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago* That wouldn't be good for a bunch of reasons. Mainly because the owner is obviously stupid. That being said, I'd argue that Cars aren't safe because if you light a fire under it and wait for a few minutes it goes up in flames. Same reasoning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (4 children) People in construction know what they're doing and in general know what they're talking about. Unfortunately, that excellently constructed home they spent so much effort on will still be sitting there in 5, 15, maybe 50 years from now. And all that time it's definitely not getting all it's proper maintenance, and will slowly be dropping in quality. I doubt these buildings would go up hindenburg style, but after a decade or two of being lived in, fires will not be as easy to put out in a home like this. Source: not a construction worker, but have worked in construction for a few years here and there and have been working with fire for several decades (and working to make fire safe to handle and trying to fireproof a couple garages) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children) And all that time it's definitely not getting all it's proper maintenance That’s a human problem, not a problem with the material and would affect any home built with any material. Also, what kind of maintenance requires you to open up the walls? I doubt these buildings would go up hindenburg style, but after a decade or two of being lived in, fires will not be as easy to put out in a home like this. Anything to support this besides your assumptions? Straw has been in use for a very long time and, generally speaking, this statement doesn’t hold up. https://www.nachi.org/straw-bale-home-basics-history.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children) a good material for a house will survive neglect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago Uh, I don't think so. But maybe you can teach me something. Do you have an example of a structure that is exposed to the elements and doesn't need Amy maintenance? while providing good living xonditions of course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I can only assume you’re trolling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children) And all that time it's definitely not getting all it's proper maintenance That’s a human problem, not a problem with the material and would affect any home built with any material. Also, what kind of maintenance requires you to open up the walls? I doubt these buildings would go up hindenburg style, but after a decade or two of being lived in, fires will not be as easy to put out in a home like this. Anything to support this besides your assumptions? Straw has been in use for a very long time and, generally speaking, this statement doesn’t hold up. https://www.nachi.org/straw-bale-home-basics-history.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children) a good material for a house will survive neglect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago Uh, I don't think so. But maybe you can teach me something. Do you have an example of a structure that is exposed to the elements and doesn't need Amy maintenance? while providing good living xonditions of course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I can only assume you’re trolling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children) a good material for a house will survive neglect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago Uh, I don't think so. But maybe you can teach me something. Do you have an example of a structure that is exposed to the elements and doesn't need Amy maintenance? while providing good living xonditions of course. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I can only assume you’re trolling. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago Uh, I don't think so. But maybe you can teach me something. Do you have an example of a structure that is exposed to the elements and doesn't need Amy maintenance? while providing good living xonditions of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make. I can only assume you’re trolling. permalink fedilink source parent