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[+] -7 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

And the people who actually control the party, decide what legislation gets a vote, and punish members who go against leadership will never allow it to happen, nor will they allow any of those progressive politicians to succeed them in their positions of power. Progressives are allowed on the party bcs they help keep the left flank in line, but they will never be allowed to hold any real power. That might threaten the Wall St donation gravy train, and the Third Way Foundation assholes who have a death grip on the power structures of the party will kill everyone on Earth before they give up that money.

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  • [–] 7 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

    Ah, defeatism. And basically telling other people to not even try.

    I'd expect nothing less from .ml

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  • [–] 0 points 5 hours ago

    Tankies won't but the effort into voting but want to be perceived as serious to actually be marching in the streets.

    They have some real criticism of the dem establishment, but no real perspective that they are surrendering office to fascism.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

    Somehow not defeatism: We have to vote for the democrats, dont you dare think a better world is possible

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

    Did you vote for progressives in the primaries? Actually I don't care, the primaries are over, you fuck with the dick you've got, not the one you wish you had.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 hours ago* (5 children)

    Nice way of changing the subject. Try to relate to the actual fact that your line of thinking is defeatist.

    "progressives" like AOC the last and hardest rider for Genocide Joe or Bernie "both sides" Sanders? I'm sorry, but I'll be writing in Hillary, its her turn!
    Either that or vote third party, since thats the only way you can actually justify this batshit idea of "strategic election incrementalism" that is so popular amongst embarrassed fascists like you lot

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (4 children)

    You do realize that you're the meme right?

    Right now, this comment is the fucking meme.

    You fucks always ignore everything the actual fascists do, so that you can get high off your own ass claiming that the democrats are the real fascists.

    Fucking get over yourself and admit you like the conservatives more.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    > me, holding up a picture of a crying wojak with some reductive strawman text underneath
    > wowww youre like literally the meme wowww

    Somehow you people keep fucking up, you struggle to argue against the actual leftist critique of your "lesser evil" argument.
    The democrats are fascists as are the republicans. There is no practical difference between the two. You keep making up some alternative position you'd like leftists to hold, because it is easier than actually engaging with the argument at hand. "Oh do you want a grenade or a nuke?" I am arguing they are both nukes, "oh you think the republicans aren't fascists" I am arguing they are both fascists.
    The reasoning for this argument has been pointed out many times. Each time it devolves into either strawmanning, like here; the other acting willfully obtuse; or petty name calling.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children)

    i despise conservatives. i hold special hate in my heart for democrats though, because they are just such dogshit opposition and their cultists will smugly crow about every minority getting unpersoned due to their incompetence. they refuse to see how much they have in common with red maga and this entire thread and OP are the foremost example of it

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