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The real monster turned out to be AI plagiarism (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 94 points 2 days ago (1 child)

They analyze statistical patterns, they don't cross reference the training data.

It's picking up the text as generated because it's mostly guess work and constantly spits out false positives, especially with non native speakers.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Honestly I didn’t expect them to flag non-native speakers. LLMs don’t often make gramatical mistakes (or at least not ones your average joe could identify)

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  • [–] 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Foreign speakers often know English better than most Americans

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Oooh yeah, the most common dumb mistakes are (by my own checking) done by Americans in the VAST majority cases. Stuff like not knowing how to use your/you're, there/their/they're, cloths/clothes, definitely/defiantly, where/were/we're, its/it's etc. correctly and the many other failings of basic grammar like "would/could of" and so much else.
    I don't think there's another country in the world where the native speakers are so fucking bad at even the most basic shit.
    The most common response I've gotten and seen when others correct stuff like that is "calm down, English probability isn't their main language" yet when checking it's been Americans who made the mistakes 99% of the time.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    I was going to say:

    The difference is between growing up, learning a language by hearing and making the sounds, and learning it as a foreign language, having to understand and memorize the rules.
    "They're, their, there" all sound the same as well as "could've, could of".

    But interestingly other English speakers don't make those mistakes as often as people emerging from the american education system.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It's plausible that Americans are worse at this than foreigners, but English spelling is a crime and everyone who makes mistakes ought be excused on account of how ridiculous the "rules" are.
    I know how to spell most of the words I use and I resent the fact that my memory is polluted with this otherwise useless knowledge.
    In many other languages if you know how to say a word, you automatically know how to spell it. We need a world language with grammar as simple as English and spelling as straightforward as German.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Come learn french if you think english spelling is convoluted. And doesn't the language you're looking for exist ? Doesn't esperanto check all your requirements ?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    I almost mentioned French, but thought it didn't need to catch strays here haha.
    To be honest I don't know much about Esperanto, but it lacks one critical requirement - to be a world language. And realistically it has no chance to be. The number of people who speak it is a rounding error.

    I think what has a real shot at happening instead is that English spelling simplifies gradually and organically until it is largely straightforward. That is if Chinese doesn't end up as the next world language lol

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    The decline I've seen in my time on the internet is genuinely shocking

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