▲ 730 ▼ Park benches don't "open" until 10am (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 152 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 78 points 1 day ago (2 children) If you don't want to see homeless people in your park: HOUSE THEM permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] majster@lemmy.zip 12 points 23 hours ago (4 children) Over here entrance to shelters is permitted only to the sober. Its more complicated than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago And it's impossible to get a decent night's sleep outside with all the traffic, pedestrians, noises, cops, etc. unless you self-medicate. If you can't get a good night's sleep you go insane. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) In metro Vancouver area theyve bought old hotels and other buildings and set up barrier free housing. But it doesn't totally fix it because some, due to mental health, still don't want housing (or rules that go with housing) and some are destructive and start fires. Its a super tough problem that needs a root cause fix in early childhood years when kids need a good life. A former addict/homeless person also mentioned that all the comforts, and safe injection sites, free clean drugs, etc just insentivized them to keep using, since there wasn't hardship to force change. Its like a no win situation, right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago Some people need to hit rock bottom to get the right motivation, others just need a chance to get back on top. We shouldn't accommodate the former at the expense of the latter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago (2 children) It's a lot easier to get sober if you have housing and basic needs covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* Our town, one shelter they essentially dry out at (at their own pace), one shelter they go through a program that trains them on basic adulting and job skills like paying rent and filling out timesheets. together they make a pretty successful (very low recidivism rate, i.e. back on the street) mutual aid group permalink fedilink source parent [+] endbringer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 21 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago Agree, but also I still think we should House them instead of investing into hostile architecture because its just more sensible permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago You have to solve your problems before we help you solve your problems. Top notch logic there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kamee@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) Why spend money on housing them when you can instead (i assume) employ someone to keep to anti-homeless benches on schedule and pay consultants extraorbitant fees to help you design anti-homeless parks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago Ironically, the guy who has the job of maintaining the equipment and schedule permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 14 hours ago They literally don't just make Concentration Camps against the poor and the homeless because that would be too brazen and obvious, I fucking hate them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] majster@lemmy.zip 12 points 23 hours ago (4 children) Over here entrance to shelters is permitted only to the sober. Its more complicated than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago And it's impossible to get a decent night's sleep outside with all the traffic, pedestrians, noises, cops, etc. unless you self-medicate. If you can't get a good night's sleep you go insane. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) In metro Vancouver area theyve bought old hotels and other buildings and set up barrier free housing. But it doesn't totally fix it because some, due to mental health, still don't want housing (or rules that go with housing) and some are destructive and start fires. Its a super tough problem that needs a root cause fix in early childhood years when kids need a good life. A former addict/homeless person also mentioned that all the comforts, and safe injection sites, free clean drugs, etc just insentivized them to keep using, since there wasn't hardship to force change. Its like a no win situation, right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago Some people need to hit rock bottom to get the right motivation, others just need a chance to get back on top. We shouldn't accommodate the former at the expense of the latter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago (2 children) It's a lot easier to get sober if you have housing and basic needs covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* Our town, one shelter they essentially dry out at (at their own pace), one shelter they go through a program that trains them on basic adulting and job skills like paying rent and filling out timesheets. together they make a pretty successful (very low recidivism rate, i.e. back on the street) mutual aid group permalink fedilink source parent [+] endbringer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 21 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago Agree, but also I still think we should House them instead of investing into hostile architecture because its just more sensible permalink fedilink source parent [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago You have to solve your problems before we help you solve your problems. Top notch logic there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago And it's impossible to get a decent night's sleep outside with all the traffic, pedestrians, noises, cops, etc. unless you self-medicate. If you can't get a good night's sleep you go insane. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago (1 child) In metro Vancouver area theyve bought old hotels and other buildings and set up barrier free housing. But it doesn't totally fix it because some, due to mental health, still don't want housing (or rules that go with housing) and some are destructive and start fires. Its a super tough problem that needs a root cause fix in early childhood years when kids need a good life. A former addict/homeless person also mentioned that all the comforts, and safe injection sites, free clean drugs, etc just insentivized them to keep using, since there wasn't hardship to force change. Its like a no win situation, right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago Some people need to hit rock bottom to get the right motivation, others just need a chance to get back on top. We shouldn't accommodate the former at the expense of the latter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 10 minutes ago Some people need to hit rock bottom to get the right motivation, others just need a chance to get back on top. We shouldn't accommodate the former at the expense of the latter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago (2 children) It's a lot easier to get sober if you have housing and basic needs covered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* Our town, one shelter they essentially dry out at (at their own pace), one shelter they go through a program that trains them on basic adulting and job skills like paying rent and filling out timesheets. together they make a pretty successful (very low recidivism rate, i.e. back on the street) mutual aid group permalink fedilink source parent [+] endbringer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 21 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago Agree, but also I still think we should House them instead of investing into hostile architecture because its just more sensible permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* Our town, one shelter they essentially dry out at (at their own pace), one shelter they go through a program that trains them on basic adulting and job skills like paying rent and filling out timesheets. together they make a pretty successful (very low recidivism rate, i.e. back on the street) mutual aid group permalink fedilink source parent
[+] endbringer@sh.itjust.works -2 points 21 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago Agree, but also I still think we should House them instead of investing into hostile architecture because its just more sensible permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orochi02@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago Agree, but also I still think we should House them instead of investing into hostile architecture because its just more sensible permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago You have to solve your problems before we help you solve your problems. Top notch logic there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kamee@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) Why spend money on housing them when you can instead (i assume) employ someone to keep to anti-homeless benches on schedule and pay consultants extraorbitant fees to help you design anti-homeless parks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago Ironically, the guy who has the job of maintaining the equipment and schedule permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 14 hours ago They literally don't just make Concentration Camps against the poor and the homeless because that would be too brazen and obvious, I fucking hate them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago Ironically, the guy who has the job of maintaining the equipment and schedule permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 14 hours ago They literally don't just make Concentration Camps against the poor and the homeless because that would be too brazen and obvious, I fucking hate them. permalink fedilink source parent