Zelensky posted warm thanks to Israel's president for Independence Day wishes. He said Ukraine-Israel ties will grow and prayed for peace. Meanwhile, Israel bombs Gaza and occupies Palestine. Russia does same in Ukraine. Ukraine supports Israel, but Israel is just like Russia. Selective outrage is not okay. If you cry about invasion, dont support another invader.

source: https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/2092372329594511598

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[โ€“] 55 points 4 days ago* (4 children)

They're also allied with the USA, who are also attacking countries as they see fit. I'd assume by default that Ukraine just allies with whoever is willing and able to support them materially, and IDK if I should fault them for that while they're in the middle of fighting against an invasion. Then again, Zelenskyy is Jewish and as such probably pro-Israel like most Jews ...

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  • [โ€“] [S] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    You are right. While the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes, not all of them do. I have shared several jews videos that condemn and against zionism and Israel

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    While the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes

    Source for this ridiculous claim?

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    The ridiculous claim of some Jews being anti-zionist, or the ridiculous claim of most Jews being zionist?

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I meant to quote part of the comment. Fixed. Thanks.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 3 days ago (1 child)
  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes

    vs.

    62% of Israelis believe there are no innocents in Gaza

    Try again?

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  • [โ€“] -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Are you stupid or you don't see the connection?

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  • So you don't have a source that shows the quoted claim to be true, got it. You might want to consider if you have fallen for hate mongering. The same hate mongering that makes people say shit like the majority of people following islam are terrorists.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Source: https://sh.itjust.works/c/ZionistViolenceMonitor?dataType=Post&sort=New

    Dozens of videos show that some jews are against zionism and Israeli crimes.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    You claimed that

    the majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes

    Where is your source for that. As it stands, it's just antisemitism.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    the implication here is that if he's right, reality is anti-semitic, which is not the case at all!

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/eight-out-of-ten-british-jews-identify-as-zionist-says-new-poll-vu3f391c

    https://www.jewishvoicesnj.org/articles/the-zionism-gap-what-data-really-shows-about-jews-israel-and-zionism-today/

    Israel's tragic attempt to merge Judaism and Zionism seems to be succeeding globally. if anything, their propaganda machine is your anti-Semitic culprit

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    the implication here is that if he's right, reality is anti-semitic, which is not the case at all!

    The implication is that if they are making shit up about jewish people they are anti-semitic.

    Also, your two links are not sources for the claim that I quoted.

    Israel's tragic attempt to merge Judaism and Zionism seems to be succeeding globally.

    Because of people like OP conflating jewish people with Israelis.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    as a socialist white American who opposes the imperial regime i kind of know how the ~12% of anti-Zionist Jews who want global recognition of their identity feel. we want our existence recognized but we accomplish LESS THAN NOTHING and then we get upset that we are lumped in with genociders, meanwhile the majority planned this and wants this. when Jewish anti-Zionism accomplishes anything, it'll be recognized, until then yall are basically like white American socialists, you try again and again but despite your efforts things are getting worse, fast, and there are SEVERAL groups of people who are CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING something far worse than you are who get to speak instead of you, for now. (white Americans have it a little better rhetorically because we don't have compulsory military service and our settler-colonialism is, for some reason, referred to using the past tense)

    I'm not upset that you're whining about it, i whine too, but no one is going to take us seriously until we prove, materially, that it matters in any real way that we believe the correct thing. it's not happening yet, but if this continues without any real accomplishment, when gen alpha gets old enough they are going to globally accuse you of LARPing like Gen Z did with the communists here, and you'll split into "anti-Zionists" and "non-Zionists" like we did here with leftism, as the Palestinians begin to dwindle into the tens of thousands, then thousands, then hundreds

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  • [โ€“] [S] -1 points 2 days ago (1 child)
  • [โ€“] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Can you please explain what you want to say with that link?

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  • [โ€“] [S] -2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    The majority of jews support zionist and Israeli crimes

    The majority of jews support Israel's crimes. But not all. Those who don't support Israel's crimes can be found in the links. Additional link: https://tankie.tube/c/zionistcrimemonitor/videos

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  • [โ€“] -3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah we've been saying that the US has never been on the right side of a conflict but you libs keep telling us this one is different

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  • [+] -40 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • [โ€“] 39 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Ukraine isn't the one invading another country, so there's that.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Yes, they invaded Kursk?

    Question is, if invading a different country was really the point you are trying to make.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Kursk is a Russian state. Are you really faulting Ukraine for pushing north over the border in an area that wasn't as heavily protected, while they were getting overran to the east.

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  • [โ€“] 25 points 4 days ago

    Well, one side is invading a sovereign country with the stated goal of annexing it and displacing the population.

    The other side is being invaded and suffering a genocide by a vastly larger country, and are desperately trying to get whatever help they can.

    So no, it doesn't raise that question at all. Or at least, not among people with more than 2 braincells.

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