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It's gonna be like Star Trek except shitty and violent. (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am merely a big sci fi nerd who tries his best to know how space works. The degree to which this is impossible is like...overwhelming. Also stop being Mars perverts. There is nothing there. We already know that. Venus is a more potentially useful planet. The ISS in my opinion is the most important space thing that we have and we should make more of them. I may be a known gundam fan but part of what made me one was that I had already thought that orbital colonies are the best path forward towards human occupation of space before these ideas of a fucking trip to mars. We can't go to other planets. We just cant. The only way we can learn to do so is by learning how to make living in space comfortably work. We know how to get shit in orbit. Mars is boring, we have sent enough probes to know that

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Tiangong > ISS and my most anticipated space mission is Chang'e 8, the ISRU test one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    Indont know my recent space station lore. But space stations. We need space stations. Once again being this made me like Gundam, I got the feeling from star trek, space is the place. Being a species that can figure out how to live in such a hostile environment and spreading life as we know it, cause we havent seen any other evidence so far, is gonna be necessary for not fucking up earth at this point. I just like holding on to the idea of s future that is cool in at least a bit of my mind.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Tiangong is the Chinese one, it's way newer and way less jank. It's being used primarily for studying living in space and developing technology for better space living.

    You may remember it as the one with the air fryer barbecue wings.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Second paragraphs jogged my memory. That sounds like the exact thing we should be doing. Go far plant flag is such a deeply arrogant approach. Space exploration<Space occupation. We can send fucking robots to look at stuff. There is no reason to send anyone to planets

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    China's approach to lunar exploration is exactly right. They've been building up experience and technology for living in space with Tiangong, communications infrastructure with Queqiao, and navigation and landing experience as well as observation and samples from the lunar surface with Chang'e. By the time they actually send people to the moon (still before Artemis) they'll be going to a site that's already been surveyed and mapped by rovers, with experiments in making fuel and structures from lunar material already underway.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say that there's no reason to ever send anyone to planets, but the go far plant flag mission is a pretty total waste of time, money, and risk. Did you know Apollo only ever put exactly one (1) scientist on the moon, in the very last mission?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I did know the Apollo thing. And yeah, planets are cool, but let's set our sights realistically for a bit. Orbit good. Mars bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It is nowhere near time to try sending humans to Mars. It's a pointless dead poisonous rock.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Space in orbit is literally safer cause you can come back home. And I think anyone going there would be reslly disappointed. We have reslly overhyped mars in pop culture. It's not that cool

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Low orbit is also safer because it's still within the magnetosphere

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Fr. Let's not fuck around. I am so mad practical space exploration got sidetracked in the infancy of space exploration by the cold war. I could be posting this instead:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODxb8sLro58&pp=

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    How is Venus more useful? It's more of a hell planet than Mars is.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    That hell is made of shit we csn use instead of just mostly an absence of anything. It is widely more colonizable although either are far flung. Venus is chock full of useful gap and making cloud cities on Venus is a more attainable goal than living on Mars. I dont think either are that great of an idea for now, but Venus is a more useful target than Mars. If youre considering either as a place to live you are looking at space exploration wrong. Occupying planets long term is soooo much harder than space colonies that get raw martial and energy from these planets, and for that Venus is the winus. We cant and maybe shouldnt make planets hospitable to people. There are huge ethical considerations there if it wrent such a fantastic idea in the first place. We cant even keep a planet that sustains life really well on its own together, no fucking eay can we bend other planets to suit our survival any time soon.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    None of those reasons sound any more viable than Mars, and even if we wanted to exploit the resources of the surface, nothing we want to send down will survive long enough because of the atmospheric pressure, temperatures and corrosive atmosphere. Any automated systems will just stop working. At least on Mars we can send drones down that won't disintegrate after a short time. The only thing you could do is scoop up gases on the upper atmosphere (which is mostly CO2 anyway, basically useless), but that's a waste of energy and the weather systems make that a crapshoot.

    But like you said, Mars is also silly, there's nothing there and it's too far away, it's only real value is advancing scientific understanding and that's it.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago

    The surface is no good but the atmosphere has layers of cool shit. Heat rises so floating something to occupy the band of atmosphere that is totally okay for humans isnt all that far fetched. It's still basically science fiction but harder science fiction than colonizing mars. Cloud cities on Venus sound more fantastic but are genuinely more likely than dome cities or whatever on Mars. There is a good amount of nitrogen and oxygen on Venus which is pretty useful the upper atmosphere does a solid job of producing oxygen out of the massive amounts of co2 in the atmosphere via photolysis. Keeping something going energy wise would be easy as well cause the planet is hot af, just hang a turbine and let the rising 'air' handle the rest. They're both silly sci fi ideas for now, but Venus is the better target to work towards as far as planets go. We are so fsr from ready for other planets that this is a measure of less impractical vs more impractical, we cant do either rn. Space stations are the way to go at the moment.

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