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No fucking way this mf just had an interview with the Haaretz! ๐Ÿ˜ญ This is DemSoc praxis, I guess. (thelemmy.club)
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Source: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2026-08-24/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/hasan-piker-talks-hamas-anti-zionism-and-why-americans-are-fed-up-with-israel/000001a0-29fd-d293-a1e7-39fdf95c0000

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[โ€“] [S] 9 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Anti-zionism with liberal zionist ally characteristics.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    So if someone in Israel yells "Come and get it, Anti-zionist!" And we respond, that's helping Zionism?

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    if you respond by saying "I condemn hamas" you are, if you respond with talking you also are. There is only one correct response but it's a fed post.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    You know, I might be taking a little frustration with organizing with people out on you.

    There is a concept of knowing your audience. Not every part of organizing has to be the maximalist pronounced position. It's clear that Hasan recognizes the extent of the Overton window in the US and he speaks to that window.

    It's super frustrating to me to hear all these criticisms that he isn't radical enough. Yeah, no shit that's how he's built an audience and influence. Furthermore, it seems to me like he knows that.

    He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America.

    He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party.

    YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS.

    I don't fucking care if you think this is the best part forward. The DSA and Hasan Piker are having a tangible affect on US politics. So adjust your approach accordingly.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS.

    That is none of my business, I am not American, I don't give a shit if a nicer democrat is the mayor of fuckass town in the U.S., I am a third worlder, I live in the part of the world that you "not radical enough" fellas would sell out to get closer with democrats.

    I geniunely don't understand how you're defending this, Palestine is being genocided, and this guy your supposed hero goes and has an interview with an israeli newspaper and says I condemn kkkhaamaaas.

    The only optic you have is America and the Democrat """""socialist""""" party, you don't care about Palestine, you don't care about us, you'd sell each one of us brown, asian and black people from all over the world just to have "Mamdanicare" for 4 years.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Oh ok.

    I have some bad news for you then.

    No matter how radical I am or the people I might organize with, Hasan Piker has moved the discourse in American politics against the genocide in Palestine more than any of the marches and protests we've maybe been involved with.

    And I don't care for any of this liberal politicians in particular nor do I think that electoralism is the path.

    There is objective harm reduction with succdems.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party.

    if he's moving them away from the democrats that's good, if he's sheepdogging radlibs into voting for kamala harris that's bad.

    i'm a centrist here i think we could do actual academic work on the effect he has instead of vibes based analysis of the clips we happened to see

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I don't understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes.

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I mean what did you want Hasan to do at that terrible junction? The PSL and other orgs didn't have the time or organization to be ready to run a candidate against the mainstream candidate. Kamala is only a hair's breadth better than Trump, but backing a total loser candidate would not have helped. Even if Hassan fan went out and voted PSL in 2024, it would have still been a Trump victory. Plus, with a 50.1% beating a Kamala 30% would have given the fascist an even bigger ego over "How much of Mandate they have." I wouldn't be able stand seeing that comment everywhere!

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    step 1: threaten to withhold votes in exchange for the slam dunk policy demand of being against genocide

    step 2: follow through on the threat when they want to support genocide more than they want to win an election

    i'm not going to dignify the rest of that lib shit with a response. libs are going to have to break with the party at some point, it might as fucking well have been over genocide.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I mean isn't that what we basically did? I didn't vote for Kamala or Trump myself.

    All I'm saying is that 2024 was a terrible time for any American with a tinge of actual leftism to participate in electoralism.

    I don't think Hassan was 'Vote Blue no matter who" but was more "If you have to vote, please vote Kamala." While actively criticizing Kamala for just being Biden 2.0. I'm pretty sure mainstream Dems hate him today because they think him not being balls deep for Kamala is why she lost.

    You don't have to be a Hassan fan, but don't be a hater just because his opinions on a dozen things are two degrees more to the right side of the left than you want.

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