โฒ 69 โผ No fucking way this mf just had an interview with the Haaretz! ๐ญ This is DemSoc praxis, I guess. (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 day ago by Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml to c/slop@hexbear.net 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2026-08-24/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/hasan-piker-talks-hamas-anti-zionism-and-why-americans-are-fed-up-with-israel/000001a0-29fd-d293-a1e7-39fdf95c0000 No paywall: https://archive.ph/NVmEi
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 7 points 22 hours ago (1 child) if you respond by saying "I condemn hamas" you are, if you respond with talking you also are. There is only one correct response but it's a fed post. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago (2 children) You know, I might be taking a little frustration with organizing with people out on you. There is a concept of knowing your audience. Not every part of organizing has to be the maximalist pronounced position. It's clear that Hasan recognizes the extent of the Overton window in the US and he speaks to that window. It's super frustrating to me to hear all these criticisms that he isn't radical enough. Yeah, no shit that's how he's built an audience and influence. Furthermore, it seems to me like he knows that. He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party. YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS. I don't fucking care if you think this is the best part forward. The DSA and Hasan Piker are having a tangible affect on US politics. So adjust your approach accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party. if he's moving them away from the democrats that's good, if he's sheepdogging radlibs into voting for kamala harris that's bad. i'm a centrist here i think we could do actual academic work on the effect he has instead of vibes based analysis of the clips we happened to see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago I don't understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS. That is none of my business, I am not American, I don't give a shit if a nicer democrat is the mayor of fuckass town in the U.S., I am a third worlder, I live in the part of the world that you "not radical enough" fellas would sell out to get closer with democrats. I geniunely don't understand how you're defending this, Palestine is being genocided, and this guy your supposed hero goes and has an interview with an israeli newspaper and says I condemn kkkhaamaaas. The only optic you have is America and the Democrat """""socialist""""" party, you don't care about Palestine, you don't care about us, you'd sell each one of us brown, asian and black people from all over the world just to have "Mamdanicare" for 4 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Oh ok. I have some bad news for you then. No matter how radical I am or the people I might organize with, Hasan Piker has moved the discourse in American politics against the genocide in Palestine more than any of the marches and protests we've maybe been involved with. And I don't care for any of this liberal politicians in particular nor do I think that electoralism is the path. There is objective harm reduction with succdems. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago (2 children) You know, I might be taking a little frustration with organizing with people out on you. There is a concept of knowing your audience. Not every part of organizing has to be the maximalist pronounced position. It's clear that Hasan recognizes the extent of the Overton window in the US and he speaks to that window. It's super frustrating to me to hear all these criticisms that he isn't radical enough. Yeah, no shit that's how he's built an audience and influence. Furthermore, it seems to me like he knows that. He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party. YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS. I don't fucking care if you think this is the best part forward. The DSA and Hasan Piker are having a tangible affect on US politics. So adjust your approach accordingly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party. if he's moving them away from the democrats that's good, if he's sheepdogging radlibs into voting for kamala harris that's bad. i'm a centrist here i think we could do actual academic work on the effect he has instead of vibes based analysis of the clips we happened to see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago I don't understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS. That is none of my business, I am not American, I don't give a shit if a nicer democrat is the mayor of fuckass town in the U.S., I am a third worlder, I live in the part of the world that you "not radical enough" fellas would sell out to get closer with democrats. I geniunely don't understand how you're defending this, Palestine is being genocided, and this guy your supposed hero goes and has an interview with an israeli newspaper and says I condemn kkkhaamaaas. The only optic you have is America and the Democrat """""socialist""""" party, you don't care about Palestine, you don't care about us, you'd sell each one of us brown, asian and black people from all over the world just to have "Mamdanicare" for 4 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Oh ok. I have some bad news for you then. No matter how radical I am or the people I might organize with, Hasan Piker has moved the discourse in American politics against the genocide in Palestine more than any of the marches and protests we've maybe been involved with. And I don't care for any of this liberal politicians in particular nor do I think that electoralism is the path. There is objective harm reduction with succdems. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) He's a fucking twitch streamer who's pushing politics left in America. He's talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party. if he's moving them away from the democrats that's good, if he's sheepdogging radlibs into voting for kamala harris that's bad. i'm a centrist here i think we could do actual academic work on the effect he has instead of vibes based analysis of the clips we happened to see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago I don't understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago I don't understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 child) YOUR JOB IS TO HAVE A MORE RADICAL ORGANIZATION READY FOR WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS OF SUCCDEM ELECTORAL POLITICS. That is none of my business, I am not American, I don't give a shit if a nicer democrat is the mayor of fuckass town in the U.S., I am a third worlder, I live in the part of the world that you "not radical enough" fellas would sell out to get closer with democrats. I geniunely don't understand how you're defending this, Palestine is being genocided, and this guy your supposed hero goes and has an interview with an israeli newspaper and says I condemn kkkhaamaaas. The only optic you have is America and the Democrat """""socialist""""" party, you don't care about Palestine, you don't care about us, you'd sell each one of us brown, asian and black people from all over the world just to have "Mamdanicare" for 4 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Oh ok. I have some bad news for you then. No matter how radical I am or the people I might organize with, Hasan Piker has moved the discourse in American politics against the genocide in Palestine more than any of the marches and protests we've maybe been involved with. And I don't care for any of this liberal politicians in particular nor do I think that electoralism is the path. There is objective harm reduction with succdems. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Oh ok. I have some bad news for you then. No matter how radical I am or the people I might organize with, Hasan Piker has moved the discourse in American politics against the genocide in Palestine more than any of the marches and protests we've maybe been involved with. And I don't care for any of this liberal politicians in particular nor do I think that electoralism is the path. There is objective harm reduction with succdems. permalink fedilink source parent
