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The Fairphone 6+ now has an official launch date (www.gsmarena.com)

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[-] 123@feddit.org -5 points 2 days ago

This triggers me. I mean, it's a nice proof of concept and a small skit for the rest of the industry by regularly announce and show that it is possible to produce repairable and somehow better smartphones. It's like selling organic fruit and vegetables on the local farmers market and attract "conscious" folks that are already trying not to buy food from the grocery store.

Do they think their project, their vision and business model will loose the relatively small attention from a broader range of (possible) costumers if they just pause and use more capacities to support the devices already on the market? Do they fear cuts in their supply chain, because its difficult to re-establish it once the people producing for/with them turn away and work for others?

With the right to repair and othe regulations their (former?) unique features will become a obstactle to persist in the market in which others, the mainstream manufacturers, are getting stronger.

I do not need a new smatphone every two years, not even a somehow fair one. Just produce spare parts for all your models and release everything related as open source, making it possible to run even longer with new(est) android versions or just Linux.

[-] TheMightyCat@ani.social 22 points 2 days ago

Repairability does not mean stagnation, if they keep offering spare parts for older models i would want them to produce phones with the best hardware possible as fast as possible.

Why would introducing new models retract from the mission? if spare parts are continued to be offered existing owners lose nothing?

[-] 123@feddit.org -3 points 2 days ago

i would want them to produce phones with the best hardware possible as fast as possible.

Why? For what? Ongoing tech "improvements" like this are irresponsible nowadays. As of today we aleady accomplished much progress as humans, but the need to pause, rest, recover urgently is constantly challenged.

Let us break the cycle and finally become sufficient. Especially but not exclusively within consumer electronics.

if spare parts are continued to be offered existing owners lose nothing?

We lose finite resources, the ones of the world and our own. Including spare time. We exchange it for a distraction from reality in 8K and labor that just powers the hamster wheels which probably most of the people didnt want to enter.

[-] TheMightyCat@ani.social 8 points 2 days ago

Why? For what? Ongoing tech “improvements” like this are irresponsible nowadays. As of today we aleady accomplished much progress as humans, but the need to pause, rest, recover urgently is constantly challenged.

Why and for what? because 50% more memory is a huge improvement, waydroid on a 8GB budget gets tight, while it fits much more comfortable in 12.

I'm not sure what to say to your other points as its a ideology i don't subscribe to, imo stagnation will get us nowhere.

[-] 123@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago

I am not entirely sure if we talk about persistent or volatile memory here (english is not my first language, if its persistent the term storage fits better).

What I do not get is why there is a need for more in the first place? What makes waydroid so "hungry"?

I do not pledge for stagnation, but as progress comes with a price, I do see no need to run forward, hustling even. Instead of going slower and catch up with the people who do not even have internet access nowadays, but want it. Or the ones who are using stuff thats too slow or small for others. Lets try to align access and usage of technology worldwide. Everybody deservers progress and the experience of the advantages technology is offering.

[-] TheMightyCat@ani.social 6 points 2 days ago

We are talking about the volatile memory here, the LPDDR5 DRAM

Waydroid is a android container for wayland systems, what makes it so memory intensive that its basically running an full android userland, which normally is fine but since now you're running it atop your exisitng userland the total memory usage is much higher since now you are running 2 userlands instead of just one.

[-] 123@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago

I am not that much into tech, but that reads like this being more of a gimmick and a niche. It is great to be able to adapt technology to ones need, but this seems to be something that average users do not think of and is far beyond detailed customization.

That said I think getting infantilised by the manufacturer or vendor, however, is annoying. In contrast curiosity and play instinct can be fun. Having fun is possbible even by being sufficient. I watch older television series, play older games, read older books. I have so much to experience without a subscription to streaming service, buying the newest gaming consoles or computing with the newest devices.

[-] ikirin@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

Fairphone already does pretty much what you want - keep spares available for an insane time. They don't have spares for the 3/3+ anymore but for the 4 which was released like 5 years ago.

And we don't know why the 6+ exists yet, it could be a simple stupid reason like Qualcomm deciding they don't want to produce the old SoC for as long anymore.

Personally the fact that we can even get what is basically 'just' a mainboard upgrade for a smartphone does speak for Fairphone IMHO

[-] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

So, we consider 5 years an "insane" amount of time now? My iPhone 13 mini is that old and it's not even end of life yet.

[-] ikirin@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

Hey would you be so kind and direct me to the place where Apple sells genuine spares for the 13 mini?

I'm not saying 5 years is a long time to support a phone - Apple does really well in terms of software support - I am saying having genuine spares available for that time is.

[-] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago

I'm not saying Apple sells spares, I'm saying 5 years is not enough time to even need them (if you're careful with your phone). The whole idea of a repairable phone for me is that I can repair it 10 years after the fact, at least. Otherwise - I just don't see the value, if I'll have to buy a new phone anyway.

[-] ikirin@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Kinda, but also I checked the original announcement - they promised 5 years of software and hardware support. And they had spares for 7 years as they just stopped selling them like 3 weeks ago. For a phone they stopped selling in 2022 (after it launched in 2019). IMHO that's a fair support time. Mind you - again that was 7 years ago when a 5 year software support was still groundbreaking as far as I recall.

I'd love it if devices lasted even longer. But with the current smartphone world I'm more than willing to hand it to FP - it's been 'fair'.

[-] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 hours ago

7 years is definitely better, wonder how long the spares for 4 will last

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