▲ 822 ▼ The used car market today (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 weeks ago by laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 193 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 169 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I’m starting to look at those old cars just to not have built-in trackers on my vehicle. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) I won't drive anything I can't fix. That seems to be old vehicles only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children) On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part. On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by. So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles. There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile. If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago However the used EV market is only growing permalink fedilink source parent [–] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I'm hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable. All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads. And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time. Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm optimistic about Slate. Perhaps naively so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Both of my cars are from the 80's lol. I will never buy a new vehicle again, made that mistake with a 2019 Tacoma. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago same, that's why I drive a kid tricycle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago I the sort of person who would go to the dealership and start looking underneath the showroom cars. If I can't see the oil filter, I don't want it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bytejunk@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Whoop whoop carburetor gang rise UP! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Yes, carbs are great if you love working on cars. A factory fuel injection system these days (anything newer than the old Jetronic pieces of shit) is pretty much set it and forget it, plus if you do have a bad sensor or something, it'll usually tell you (by live data reading if not DTC). Way easier to maintain than carburetors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Carburetors waste a lot of fuel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Ha. Just switch to an electronic ignition, improved coil, and spark and it's as peppy and efficient as fuel injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* efficient as fuel injection That's quite wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) The engine in my 1994 K1500 is fucked but I'll engine swap before I buy a spyware truck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Chevy v8's can be rebuilt and engine swapped to the end of time... They only built ten million of them a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Hell, you could rent a Uhaul and use its engine, then claim in broke down on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Lol, I like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 3 weeks ago Doesn't engines have serial numbers? I have a feeling this is going to backfire permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 3 weeks ago I figure the engine swap business has got to be booming right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 3 weeks ago (5 children) I won't drive anything I can't fix. That seems to be old vehicles only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children) On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part. On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by. So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles. There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile. If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago However the used EV market is only growing permalink fedilink source parent [–] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I'm hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable. All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads. And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time. Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm optimistic about Slate. Perhaps naively so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Both of my cars are from the 80's lol. I will never buy a new vehicle again, made that mistake with a 2019 Tacoma. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago same, that's why I drive a kid tricycle. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago I the sort of person who would go to the dealership and start looking underneath the showroom cars. If I can't see the oil filter, I don't want it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bytejunk@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Whoop whoop carburetor gang rise UP! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Yes, carbs are great if you love working on cars. A factory fuel injection system these days (anything newer than the old Jetronic pieces of shit) is pretty much set it and forget it, plus if you do have a bad sensor or something, it'll usually tell you (by live data reading if not DTC). Way easier to maintain than carburetors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Carburetors waste a lot of fuel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Ha. Just switch to an electronic ignition, improved coil, and spark and it's as peppy and efficient as fuel injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* efficient as fuel injection That's quite wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children) On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part. On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by. So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles. There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile. If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago However the used EV market is only growing permalink fedilink source parent [–] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I'm hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable. All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads. And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time. Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later. permalink fedilink source parent [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm optimistic about Slate. Perhaps naively so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles. There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile. If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago However the used EV market is only growing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles. There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile. If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago However the used EV market is only growing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) I'm hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable. All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads. And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads. And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards. You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 3 weeks ago You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time. Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time. Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago I'm optimistic about Slate. Perhaps naively so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Both of my cars are from the 80's lol. I will never buy a new vehicle again, made that mistake with a 2019 Tacoma. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago same, that's why I drive a kid tricycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago I the sort of person who would go to the dealership and start looking underneath the showroom cars. If I can't see the oil filter, I don't want it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bytejunk@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Whoop whoop carburetor gang rise UP! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Yes, carbs are great if you love working on cars. A factory fuel injection system these days (anything newer than the old Jetronic pieces of shit) is pretty much set it and forget it, plus if you do have a bad sensor or something, it'll usually tell you (by live data reading if not DTC). Way easier to maintain than carburetors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Carburetors waste a lot of fuel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Ha. Just switch to an electronic ignition, improved coil, and spark and it's as peppy and efficient as fuel injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* efficient as fuel injection That's quite wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Yes, carbs are great if you love working on cars. A factory fuel injection system these days (anything newer than the old Jetronic pieces of shit) is pretty much set it and forget it, plus if you do have a bad sensor or something, it'll usually tell you (by live data reading if not DTC). Way easier to maintain than carburetors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Carburetors waste a lot of fuel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago Carburetors waste a lot of fuel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child) Ha. Just switch to an electronic ignition, improved coil, and spark and it's as peppy and efficient as fuel injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* efficient as fuel injection That's quite wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* efficient as fuel injection That's quite wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) The engine in my 1994 K1500 is fucked but I'll engine swap before I buy a spyware truck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Chevy v8's can be rebuilt and engine swapped to the end of time... They only built ten million of them a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Hell, you could rent a Uhaul and use its engine, then claim in broke down on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Lol, I like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 3 weeks ago Doesn't engines have serial numbers? I have a feeling this is going to backfire permalink fedilink source parent [–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 3 weeks ago I figure the engine swap business has got to be booming right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) Chevy v8's can be rebuilt and engine swapped to the end of time... They only built ten million of them a year. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Hell, you could rent a Uhaul and use its engine, then claim in broke down on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Lol, I like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 3 weeks ago Doesn't engines have serial numbers? I have a feeling this is going to backfire permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Hell, you could rent a Uhaul and use its engine, then claim in broke down on you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago Lol, I like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 3 weeks ago Doesn't engines have serial numbers? I have a feeling this is going to backfire permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 3 weeks ago Doesn't engines have serial numbers? I have a feeling this is going to backfire permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 point 3 weeks ago I figure the engine swap business has got to be booming right now. permalink fedilink source parent