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Exactly. The bank can borrow, for which they need collateral, which sufficiently proves that what you're saying is wrong.
They have to manage their balance sheet actively, and your original statement was in the lines of 'it's all made up and they have infinite equity supply'.
Read my original comment again. I explicitly talk about banks borrowing to maintain liquidity. It's an important limit on their ability to create money, and nobody said anything about infinite money supply.
But it doesn't change the fact that the act of money creation is caused by a bank creating a loan, and the money comes into being without a single physical act of manufacturing: it happens on a computer, and before computers it happened on paper.
So without claiming that money was unlimited, I did point out that money itself is overwhelningly digital in the modern age. And the limits don't come from any physical constraints.
Okay, let's break it down yeah?
Sure. Empty statement though. I can withdraw all I own and turn it into gold or pebbles if I like. That's what currency is always meant for. Technology made it easier.
That's wrong and that's also not what the paper is implying. Banks don't have an unlimited balance sheet. Your 'nothing' is an expansion of the balance sheet and you're grisly misrepresenting double entry bookkeeping. The borrower provides an asset (collateral) and the bank provides an asset (savings from third parties). If the borrower spends that loan, on e.g. food, real money is moving around. Finally you're also misrepresenting capital adequacy regulations.
Who cares what percentage of the transactions are digital? That's where loro and nostro accounts are for. The underlying cash exists and is tangible.
Oh my god, computers? Like sand and electricity? Voodoo I say. Don't trust that.
You can't borrow money from the government. That's not how central banks work. You still need collateral, which you can't pledge multiple times.
You don't turn it into anything. You spend it to buy something else. You can spend it without withdrawing any kind of physical representation of the currency, too, with just plain old electronic payment systems.
Plenty of loans are made unsecured, where the borrower doesn't pledge the asset. The act of money creation through lending is the same regardless of whether it's secured or unsecured loans. And even secured loans don't change the underlying ownership and control of the collateral, unless a foreclosure happens.
Yes, but the collateral can be the loans that they've extended, which, again, were created by creating a loan balance and a deposit balance. So they can extend a loan for $100, let the borrower spend $100, and then borrow against the original borrower's loan balance.
No, it can't be done infinitely, but I never claimed that it could be. I'm just saying that the process itself is entirely ephemeral, through written or electronic records alone.
Fitting username. Explaining this to people irl who respect and listen to me is hard; can’t imagine trying to inform someone online who’s simultaneously trying to win the conversation you’re having