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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 35 points 18 hours ago

First amendment only protects you from being persecuted by the government. Being ostracized, shamed and unfortunately attacked in the middle of the night by anonomous people isn't against the first amendment.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It also doesn't apply outside the US (there's a whole planet out there guys) so regardless of the nuance of its construction, it isn't relevant here anyway.

[-] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

thanks @MBech@feddit.dk and @echodot@feddit.uk, I was about reply these two points and then saw your replies.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 18 hours ago

But they are allowed to debate.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 15 points 18 hours ago

Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can.

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