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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 11 points 16 hours ago

I'm curious, what should they have done? Would these kids have had a better life in Vietnam after/during the war or in the US?

The US committed many atrocities and the country is kakistrocratic oligarchy masquerading as a democracy that continues to fuck up the world to this day, but let's consider, what would've been best for orphans in Vietnam at that time?

[-] otterpop@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago

A lot of these kids weren't actually orphans but were placed in these orphanages temporarily by their parents due to instability with the intention of later retrieval.

However for the Amerasian children (25% of these roughly), I agree that they should have been evacuated. As I mentioned elsewhere on the post, the discrimination and racism they faced after the war in Vietnam was awful.

[-] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I don't see another comment from you in this thread, so not sure what's going on there.

[-] mrsilkworm@piefed.social 15 points 15 hours ago

Not killing their parents would definitely go a long way for these children. Not going to war and not committing atrocities would also help.

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"What do you do with an unwanted pregnancy that's the result of a rape?"

"Don't get raped in the first place."

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unfolding the anology would mean "US is the victim here. "

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

this was the first thing i noticed, too

[-] i_need_your_bones@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Its more like going to the rapist who took the rape baby after the rape and saying that they really shouldn't have raped that person and though the issue with stealing the rape baby is bad a good solution would have been to not rape.

If America didn't invade, no orphans. Really weird you'de equate not invading Vietnam with raping a person

Edit: to clarify, no, the other person didn't say "just don't get raped" or the equivalent. The analogy was wrong. This is my point

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago

much better put than i did

[-] jaaake@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

A solution to a problem can't be "travel back in time and prevent yourself from being in this situation" that's not a solution, it's pointing out the obvious source of the problem.

[-] i_need_your_bones@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I agree, but that person did not say "just don't get raped." The analogy doesn't work, and is weird to say while being destructive to the conversation.

That comment I replied to made this equivalancy which is table flipping, fuck you I'm going to paint you in the worst light, type behavior.

No, the guy didn't say "just don't get raped" he said "we shouldn't have been raping"

Ok, solution wasn't the proper word, the commenter was talking morality. Taking the babies was wrong and America shouldn't have done it, nor should they have gotten involved afterwards.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -3 points 13 hours ago

Vietnam was at war before the USA got involved, it would have just been a one sided slaughter by the North.

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

this take was badly expressed. i woke up in the middle of the night to piss and wrote it between walking from the bathroom to the bed. Point I was trying to make was it is a clumsy metaphor that directly casts america as the victim.

[-] Dookieman12@piefed.social 4 points 15 hours ago

Do you have anything to offer that's actually possible to do, a real answer to the question, or do you just feel like being a contrarian little shit today?

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 14 hours ago

Sure, want to undo all the evil humanity has done since its evolution too?

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