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I would phrase it differently, but it's very hard to contest that the bulk of "democratic socialists" in America are literally socdems ("Nordic socialists" or whatever) which literally is a type of liberal.
There are also genuine democratic socialists, who are incorrect but for different reasons, but I think they might be in the minority of people using that title.
If we are discussing from a perspective within the US, I think that flattening our vocabulary weakens our analysis. I think there is a chance (though not overwhelmingly likely) that the differences between these factions will become more pronounced in the future, rather than less. I would like our community to retain the vocabulary to identify it if it happens.
I dont expect discussions from a non-US perspective to care too much about it, though.
I agree that we shouldn't flatten our vocabulary, but consider that treating all self-identifying demsocs as just being "demsocs" is flattening the distinction between actual demsocs and "Nordic socialist" socdems.